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Re: Supreme Court Decision
« Reply #15 on Jan 23, 2010, 2:35pm »

Jan 22, 2010, 10:31am, Aqualung wrote:

And I'll bet the knuckle-dragging mouth breathers at Faux Noise all came. I hate my country so much right now. >:(

As a matter of fact, they've just now started painting the walls white. One of the things I saw coming out of the shower was that gaggle of douchebags hailing it as a "Free Speech Landmark."

I'm not kidding, that was actually the biggest piece of text on the screen.

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Re: Supreme Court Decision
« Reply #16 on Jan 24, 2010, 12:07am »

A petition to fight the ruling. I found this a while ago. Hope this helps.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/100412745

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Fair Elections Now
Target: Your U.S. Senators and Representative
Sponsored by: Care2.com
In a far-reaching decision that could well be a textbook example of judicial activism, the U.S. Supreme Court has struck down decades of election finance precedent and opened the floodgates to unlimited corporate spending on elections.

President Obama denounced the decision as "a major victory for big oil, Wall Street banks, health insurance companies and the other powerful interests that marshal their power every day in Washington to drown out the voices of everyday Americans."

Major corporations in this country post billions of dollars in profit and could easily spend enough money to determine the outcome of an election or influence votes on legislation. Stand up for your rights and for our democracy. Urge your elected representatives to support the Fair Elections Now Act!

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Re: Supreme Court Decision
« Reply #17 on Jan 24, 2010, 3:11am »

Jan 24, 2010, 12:07am, Lucifer wrote:

A petition to fight the ruling. I found this a while ago. Hope this helps.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/100412745

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I doubt it will do anything, but I'm signing anyway. And writing my reps directly. Of course, I'm from the state of Bernie Sanders, which means my thoughts are probably relatively meaningless, but it is the next logical step.

This is just so dangerous a ruling.

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Re: Supreme Court Decision
« Reply #18 on Jan 24, 2010, 5:32pm »

Unfortunately, there is only one way to defeat a Supreme Court ruling.

A constitutional amendment.

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Re: Supreme Court Decision
« Reply #19 on Jan 24, 2010, 5:53pm »

Jan 24, 2010, 5:32pm, meshakhad wrote:

Unfortunately, there is only one way to defeat a Supreme Court ruling.

A constitutional amendment.

There is always the option of re-writing the laws so that they are constitutionally consistent except that would require a majority in both houses and a set of balls. It would also require the dems to actually want to limit the amount of money corporations throw at them, which somehow, I just don't quite buy.

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Re: Supreme Court Decision
« Reply #20 on Jan 24, 2010, 6:02pm »

Any option at this point requires a majority with a pair of danglies.

Also, this ruling sharply limits a good chunk of Congress' potential future, so you might find more people willing to work against it than you think. Just probably not a majority.

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Re: Supreme Court Decision
« Reply #21 on Jan 24, 2010, 6:02pm »

Judicial activism, anyone?

Look what happened here. The Court magically found a definition of "free speech" that includes "handing money to." This is not what the First Amendment was designed to protect. The First Amendment is about keeping the government from stopping someone from saying something it doesn't like.

In that vein, I'd allow corporations to SAY whatever they please. If a company wanted to air commercials saying "Obama is the worst president ever because he's black!" I would defend their right to air that ad. Although TV stations could refuse to air it, the government couldn't make it illegal to run it.

But what does that have to do with giving money to campaigns? That's not what the First Amendment is about at all. It says "speech," and any construction other than one about speaking (or, I'll give them, printing) is outside the scope of the First Amendment. I don't know WHERE Kennedy is getting this business about "money" from.

It sounds like judicial activism to me, but I don't hear the Right crying about it. Maybe because they never cared about "judicial activism" in the first place.

Not once. Ever.

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Re: Supreme Court Decision
« Reply #22 on Jan 24, 2010, 7:08pm »

Well, duh. The right's definition of "Judicial Activism" is:

Judicial Activism (Jew-dish-all Act-iv-is-m) - n. A decision made by a judge that I disagree with.

Of course, though, according to someone by the name of Ed Brayton over at Science Blogs, this just means that corporations can directly (and overtly) fund their preferred cause, instead of doing it through PACs.

I didn't read the article, found it in the comments over at Happy Jihad's House of Pancakes. Original article here:

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2010/01/yesterdays_supreme_court_rulin.php

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Re: Supreme Court Decision
« Reply #23 on Jan 25, 2010, 5:26pm »

Since rights are equally available to everyone, am I going to get tonnes and tonnes of 'speech' driven up to my house in dump trucks, to put me on the same level as GE?

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Re: Supreme Court Decision
« Reply #24 on Jan 25, 2010, 6:53pm »

The corporations have owned the federal government for decades. Now they no longer have to be even remotely discreet about it.

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