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« Thread Started on Dec 29, 2011, 11:01am »

Texas Rep. Ron Paul (R) received an unwanted endorsement on Tuesday when Don Black, the founder of the white nationalist group Stormfront, told The Young Turks host Cenk Uygur that he supported Paul’s presidential candidacy.
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“We believe that white people in this country and all European countries, Australia, Canada are facing a form of genocide through assimilation.”

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I've gotta say, when Stormfront approves of what you're doing, you're doing something horribly, horribly wrong.
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« Reply #1 on Dec 29, 2011, 11:10am »

Maybe this'll get Paul to renounce some of his racism? (not all... We can't hope for that, he's too old and set in his ways)
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« Reply #2 on Dec 29, 2011, 11:12am »

Bah let's not play guilt by association. Ron Paul has disavowed everything they stand for.

For me, Ron Paul is the only Republican nominee I could ever vote for. If anybody else gets the nomination, Barack Obama automatically has my vote. If he wins though, I will actually be unsure who to vote for until after the debates.
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« Reply #3 on Dec 29, 2011, 11:17am »

Ron Paul - Not Racist, but #1 With Racists!*



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« Reply #4 on Dec 29, 2011, 11:32am »


Dec 29, 2011, 11:12am, cestlefun17 wrote:
Bah let's not play guilt by association. Ron Paul has disavowed everything they stand for.

For me, Ron Paul is the only Republican nominee I could ever vote for. If anybody else gets the nomination, Barack Obama automatically has my vote. If he wins though, I will actually be unsure who to vote for until after the debates.

You're right, Ron Paul isn't racist, he's just uncomfortable around black and hispanic people (link). That's totally not the same thing.
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You're right, Ron Paul isn't racist, he's just uncomfortable around black and hispanic people (link). That's totally not the same thing.
It doesn't say that at all. It says he has nothing against those people but had (in the 1980s) very little knowledge of their cultures. The examples given in regards to gay people are awful, but then again this was the 1980s when AIDS was rampant. Are you saying that people have no capacity to change?
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« Reply #6 on Dec 29, 2011, 12:17pm »

Rand Paul has openly stated that he disagrees with the Civil Rights Act in regards to "forcing" businesses to deal with equality and would like to see it repealed. Why should his father be any better?
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« Reply #7 on Dec 29, 2011, 12:34pm »


Dec 29, 2011, 12:12pm, cestlefun17 wrote:

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You're right, Ron Paul isn't racist, he's just uncomfortable around black and hispanic people (link). That's totally not the same thing.
It doesn't say that at all. It says he has nothing against those people but had (in the 1980s) very little knowledge of their cultures. The examples given in regards to gay people are awful, but then again this was the 1980s when AIDS was rampant. Are you saying that people have no capacity to change?

80s? This guy worked for Paul until 2003. It is possible Paul has changed, but in light of evidence to the contrary, I'm not going to believe it. Now, if you have evidence to say Ron Paul has been enlightened, please present it.
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« Reply #8 on Dec 29, 2011, 12:38pm »

Ron Paul has a libertarian heart, wants to audit the Fed, but has said other things that are batshit. He's pushing 80, probably losing his mind.
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« Reply #9 on Dec 29, 2011, 12:45pm »

This pretty much sums up the issue of Ron Paul and racism:

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Paul offers implausible explanations for why so many derogatory statements made it into his publications, insisting he knew nothing about them. It’s hard to believe that a man who wants to oversee the entire U.S. government — albeit a smaller version — would provide zero oversight of his publications, or even bother to read them from time to time.

The Texas congressman has to take responsibility for the newsletters that bear his name, or at least acknowledge negligence as the former head of the company that produced them.

If he can't even properly oversee a small publication that consistently published patently racist material in his name, then he is in no position to oversee the free world.
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Dec 29, 2011, 12:45pm, shykid wrote:
This pretty much sums up the issue of Ron Paul and racism:

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Paul offers implausible explanations for why so many derogatory statements made it into his publications, insisting he knew nothing about them. It’s hard to believe that a man who wants to oversee the entire U.S. government — albeit a smaller version — would provide zero oversight of his publications, or even bother to read them from time to time.

The Texas congressman has to take responsibility for the newsletters that bear his name, or at least acknowledge negligence as the former head of the company that produced them.

If he can't even properly oversee a small publication that consistently published patently racist material in his name, then he is in no position to oversee the free world.

It's even better, he's a lying bastard because back in the 90s he defe nded the newsletters. Now, you could argue he's no longer defending them because he no longer holds those views, but he could very easily run as a reformed racist. With something as simple as that, his racist past is gone. But he's not doing that. So what options are left?

-He's still racist, but realizes the statements are politically embarrassing.
-He no longer racist, but is instead lying about his past.
-He believes he is no longer racist and is less racist than he used to be, but still prefers whites over 'the darkies.'

None of the options I see are exactly flattering, but feel free to add your own interpretation.
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« Reply #11 on Dec 29, 2011, 1:12pm »

You know, the main thing I got from this endorsement isn't that Paul is a racist (he may be, I've never met the guy, don't know) but that his views are considerably nearer these conspiracy nuts than other candidates.
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« Reply #12 on Dec 29, 2011, 3:07pm »

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« Reply #13 on Dec 29, 2011, 3:31pm »


Dec 29, 2011, 12:17pm, priestling wrote:
Rand Paul has openly stated that he disagrees with the Civil Rights Act in regards to "forcing" businesses to deal with equality and would like to see it repealed. Why should his father be any better?

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« Reply #14 on Dec 29, 2011, 3:48pm »

I could bring this up to my Paul fanboy dad as an example of what a lying scumbag he is.

But then he'd probably just say it's an example of how he "reaches across party lines."
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