Did you guys hear about Barack Obama bowing to the Saudi Arabian king,
Yeah and I ignored it as pretty much the waste of time it is. But since you insist.
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and then kissing the king's hand?
Ok that's new. Where did you read that Obama kised the Saudi King's hand?
Citation? Not that I think you are full of shit...
(Oh wait, I read the rest of your post. Might have spoken too soon)
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Do you guys have any idea what this means?
That Obama probably saw too many movies with Kings, was trying to avoid more accusations of treating royalty too equally and so made a slight faux pas in the other direction that will probably soon be forgotten outside of wing nut land?
Oh wait, you mean what do YOU think it means.
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Symbolically speaking, when you bow to a monarch and kiss his hand, you are swearing allegienace to that monarch and demonstrating that your country is a vassel state to his kingdom.
Then I guess Michelle Obama also declared war on England since she touched the Queen.
You know, as some one on another board pointed out, bitching about this isn't just a double standard. It's no standard at all.
For one thing, Obama is still light years ahead of a certain other former president that not only kissed the Saudi King but also liked to grope the Prime Ministers of foreign nations at Public functions. It's hard to get upset a small faux pas when Obama's predecessor had lowered the bar so dramatically.
But for another, the people upset at this can't make up thier damn minds.
One minute the Obama's HATE royalty and don't show enough respect. The next they Love Royalty too much. One minute Obama is too familiar then he's subservient.
Which the fuck is it?
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Obama has just pledged the United States as a vassel state of Saudi Arabia... and most of us don't even know it!
Have you even looked our foreign policy in regards to the Saudis for the past 50 or 60 years?
Unless you want to also accuse Obama of also being a time traveler or a shapeshifting immortal ....
I mean, that would be as reasonable as anything else you have said so far. And probably more entertaining.
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the Saudi king actually banned his subjects from kissing his hand in 2005, since it's demeaning and dehumanizing.
And IF I could find any reference to Obama kissing the Saudi Prince on the hand outside of right wing nut job blogs, that would mean something.
I think sacrificing children to Baal is also banned in Saudi Arabia. Want to accuse Obama of that as well? Why not? It seems to have as much validity as the hand kissing.
IF you're going to make stuff up, at least make it interesting.
Oh and actually the Saudi King banned kissing his hand because he felt it was un islamic. Think that will put to rest the claims that Obama is a secret Muslim by the Right?
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This is how men greet in each other in the homo-infested Middle East
Damn, I can't remember what it's called but I know there's a word or phrase for saying something so silly that no argument need be raised to refute it.
If anyone can tell me what that word is i would appreciate it.
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Re: Take a Bow, Barry! (To the Saudi King, that is « Reply #16 on Apr 11, 2009, 11:04am »
Oh, no. Obama bowed to a king.
Clearly that's the secret code for "I'm a Muslim who was not born in the United States and in my new capacity as the Antichrist I shall now dismantle America from the inside and allow Islam to conquer the continent."
And seeing as these Islamic countries force their women to dress in burkhas that show nothing but their eyes, stoning to death women who break this law or so much as speak to their nephew when receiving a bread delivery in public, and murder suspected homosexuals for being suspected homosexuals...
Why is it that the religious right claim Obama's a socialist intent on legalising gay marriage and encouraging women to dress like whores?
Clearly that's the secret code for "I'm a Muslim who was not born in the United States and in my new capacity as the Antichrist I shall now dismantle America from the inside and allow Islam to conquer the continent."
And seeing as these Islamic countries force their women to dress in burkhas that show nothing but their eyes, stoning to death women who break this law or so much as speak to their nephew when receiving a bread delivery in public, and murder suspected homosexuals for being suspected homosexuals...
Why is it that the religious right claim Obama's a socialist intent on legalising gay marriage and encouraging women to dress like whores?
You can't have it both ways.
The religious right also claims to be persecuted while simultaneously claiming that America's laws and government are based on their religious principals. These are people who have cognitive dissonance down to an art.
....The religious right also claims to be persecuted while simultaneously claiming that America's laws and government are based on their religious principals. These are people who have cognitive dissonance down to an art.
Cognitive Dissonance is only a problem if you stop to think about it.
Ok that's new. Where did you read that Obama kised the Saudi King's hand?
Citation? Not that I think you are full of shit...
It was on the Glenn Beck program. I'll see if I can find you the audio clip where this was discussed.
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For one thing, Obama is still light years ahead of a certain other former president that not only kissed the Saudi King but also liked to grope the Prime Ministers of foreign nations at Public functions. It's hard to get upset a small faux pas when Obama's predecessor had lowered the bar so dramatically.
As I said before, I really don't give a crap what George Bush did during his term in office. Bush's blunders do not excuse Obama's blunders. Just because I am a conservative does not mean that I support Bush or his policies.
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One minute the Obama's HATE royalty and don't show enough respect. The next they Love Royalty too much. One minute Obama is too familiar then he's subservient.
You know, I think you're onto something, Booley. The Obamas have a deep-seated hatred for the English and for white people in general. It is not secret that this is the most racist first family in American history - just look at the church they attended. During her time in college, Michelle Obama wrote tons of papers attempting to blame the English for slavery - in spite of the fact that slavery was a uniquely negro institution created by AFRICANS to sell their own people into servitude overseas.
I'm sure you've heard about how Barack Obama snubbed Gordon Brown when Brown visited the U.S. Obama's gift to Brown was a cheap box of DVDs (Brown brought Obama a highly symbolic gift crafted from the wood of an English anti-slavery vessel) and Michelle gave the Brown kids cheap plastic models from the White House gift shop (while Brown's wife gave the Obama girls expensive dressed and jewelery from an English boutique).
Obama also sent back the bust of Winston Churchill that was given to us by the UK as a show of solidarity after 9/11. Why did Obama do this? Well, to understand Obama's attitude towards Churchill and the English, you need to understand his family history. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen. He was born in Kenya and is the grandson of a Kenyan revolutionary. Obama's grandfather faught in the brutal Mau Mau uprising in the 1940s, and was imprisoned by British forces under the command of Winston Churchill. This has been documented in mainstream British papers and is not a conspiracy theory - it is a fact.
So, you're correct in suggesting a double standard at work here. Obama hates the British royalty and takes every opportunity to express his contempt for white people. However, he is more than willing to bend over backwards to please Islamic rulers. What does that tell you about Obama?
[qoute]Have you even looked our foreign policy in regards to the Saudis for the past 50 or 60 years?[/quote]
Yep. It's total bullcrud, but I'm not the one who wrote it.
Why is it that the religious right claim Obama's a socialist intent on legalising gay marriage and encouraging women to dress like whores?
You can't have it both ways.
I don't believe Obama is a Muslim. HOWEVER, he is being manipulated by Islamic leaders - all in the name of political correctness and "global diversity" - into weakening and destroying the economic, moral, and military fabric of this nation. When Obama has sufficiently destroyed our economy and backed our nation into a corner, then the Muslims will be able to do whatever they'd like and we will no longer have the backbone or the ability to challenge them.
Re: Take a Bow, Barry! (To the Saudi King, that is « Reply #21 on Apr 11, 2009, 6:47pm »
And, yes, I'm aware that Middle-Eastern cultures are adverse to homosexuals. However, that doesn't prevent the higher ups from dabbling in whatever they'd like. I have spoken with missionaries who have visited the MIddle East and can tell you taht many of these Saudi royals are closet homosexuals.
Re: Take a Bow, Barry! (To the Saudi King, that is « Reply #23 on Apr 11, 2009, 7:12pm »
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Damn, I can't remember what it's called but I know there's a word or phrase for saying something so silly that no argument need be raised to refute it.
If anyone can tell me what that word is i would appreciate it.
The term you want is 'bullshit' or 'Batshit insane ramblings'
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It was on the Glenn Beck program.
Well, now we know tac is a moron if he's gonna believe something on par with Orly and Rush
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As I said before, I really don't give a crap what George Bush did during his term in office. Bush's blunders do not excuse Obama's blunders. Just because I am a conservative does not mean that I support Bush or his policies.
I doubt very much that you disagreed with him except that he didn't make being black illegal
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The Obamas have a deep-seated hatred for the English and for white people in general.
That whole rant can be summed up in that one sentence. You need to stop listening to the KKK grand wizard.
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When Obama has sufficiently destroyed our economy and backed our nation into a corner
Are you not paying attention to national issues, Bush already has us there, we're in the process of pulling our way back out of it
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And, yes, I'm aware that Middle-Eastern cultures are adverse to homosexuals. However, that doesn't prevent the higher ups from dabbling in whatever they'd like. I have spoken with missionaries who have visited the MIddle East and can tell you taht many of these Saudi royals are closet homosexuals.
Yeah, excuse me if I call bullshit on this, facts or you're a lieing...eh, we already know you're a liar
Why is it that the religious right claim Obama's a socialist intent on legalising gay marriage and encouraging women to dress like whores?
You can't have it both ways.
I don't believe Obama is a Muslim. HOWEVER, he is being manipulated by Islamic leaders - all in the name of political correctness and "global diversity" - into weakening and destroying the economic, moral, and military fabric of this nation. When Obama has sufficiently destroyed our economy and backed our nation into a corner, then the Muslims will be able to do whatever they'd like and we will no longer have the backbone or the ability to challenge them.
Uh, how would Obama be the one causing economic collapse? His policies make perfect sense from the point of view of people who understand economics (READ: An overwhelming majority of economists), and Bush was the one that oversaw the creation of our current economic woes.
The stimulus package is the right thing to do in a failing economy, and Obama's infrastructure investment is far better in terms of securing long-term growth of an economy then Bush's $400 checks to everyone, mainly because while what Bush did does temporarily increase demand, Obama's also increases demand, while also increasing our factors of production (capital), which is the only real way to change the economic outlook in the longterm.
Also, you said the middle east was "infested" with homosexuals, how do the actions of a few leaders count as infested? By your reasoning, all CHRISTIAN organizations are infested by homosexuals because of Ted Haggard.
(note: this isn't even addressing the issue that there really isn't anything wrong with homosexuality, but I think arguing that with this particular...person....would be even more of a waste of time then arguing with him already is.)
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Re: Take a Bow, Barry! (To the Saudi King, that is « Reply #25 on Apr 11, 2009, 8:32pm »
Ok that's new. Where did you read that Obama kissed the Saudi King's hand?
Citation? Not that I think you are full of shit...
It was on the Glenn Beck program. I'll see if I can find you the audio clip where this was discussed.
Uh huh. Ok do you have a non crazy source. Because again I looked and outside of right wing blogs, there is no mention of Obama kissing anyone's hand. In fact, the reports are that he shook the King's hand. Nor can I see any kissing in the video.
Which means someone is lying.
Why do I think it could be Glen Beck?
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As I said before, I really don't give a crap what George Bush did during his term in office.
But you clearly do care a LOT about what you think Obama is doing.
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Bush's blunders do not excuse Obama's blunders.
No they do not. But they do provide a context. Bush did far far worse and yet somehow we survived.
And I think you also mised another point. The people who are making a big deal about this bow excused the actions of Bush. Yes some have since claimed they don't like Bush.. long after the utter failure of the policies have been made clear to everyone as a way to distance themselves even as they try to push for the continuation of those same policies.
Which tells me that they are not upset that Obama bowed to the Saudi King. They are upset that Obama is.
I admit I just started talking to you. I don't know what's in your head. But when everything I can find you said sounds just like the people I described above, how exactly am I supposed to tell you apart?
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Just because I am a conservative does not mean that I support Bush or his policies.
Please see above.
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You know, I think you're onto something, Booley. The Obamas have a deep-seated hatred for the English and for white people in general. It is not secret that this is the most racist first family in American history
Again I really wish someone would tell the phrase for something said that's so absurd as to be self refuting.
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During her time in college, Michelle Obama wrote tons of papers attempting to blame the English for slavery - in spite of the fact that slavery was a uniquely negro institution created by AFRICANS to sell their own people into servitude overseas.
Uh huh. Because as we all know the English never bought, transported or owned black slaves nor did they colonize any part of Africa. All slave owners were black. Europe and America did not significantly contribute the demand for slaves.
Oh wait....
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I'm sure you've heard about how Barack Obama snubbed Gordon Brown when Brown visited the U.S.
Dude, have you noticed you don't have a lot of credibility?
I mean right now it looks very much like you were seriously wrong about what you claimed Obama did.
I am not sure you actually know what happened much less how Gordon Brown felt. And for all you ranting, I have yet to see a single source.
I know you think making accusation after accusation is the same as making an argument, as one claim falls moving onto another until people just get bored with you... but it's not.
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What does that tell you about Obama?
About Obama, nothing since as I said above, I cant' trust what you say. But I do think this says something about you.
[qoute] Yep. It's total bullcrud, but I'm not the one who wrote it. [/quote]
But somehow you think Obama did. Hence your "vassal" comment.
And, yes, I'm aware that Middle-Eastern cultures are adverse to homosexuals. However, that doesn't prevent the higher ups from dabbling in whatever they'd like. I have spoken with missionaries who have visited the MIddle East and can tell you taht many of these Saudi royals are closet homosexuals.
Where have I heard this kind of logic before.
Oh yeah, the Pink Swatiska.
Yes I know I just broke Godwin's law. I will take that hit.
But seriously, we've heard this before, that a group someone doesn't like is secretly controlled by gay people even when that group oppresses and even murders gay people.
It's not only absurd it's vile in it's attempt to use justify two bigotries for the price of one.
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Re: Take a Bow, Barry! (To the Saudi King, that is « Reply #28 on Apr 11, 2009, 8:58pm »
If Obama really is a Muslim spy who will sign off the US' sovereignty to one of their colonies for some reason, why do they need to keep pointing to 'indicator' 'symbolic acts' to 'prove' it? surely, as president, he would have just gone ahead and done it?
The Obamas have a deep-seated hatred for the English and for white people in general. It is not secret that this is the most racist first family in American history - just look at the church they attended. During her time in college, Michelle Obama wrote tons of papers attempting to blame the English for slavery - in spite of the fact that slavery was a uniquely negro institution created by AFRICANS to sell their own people into servitude overseas.
Not only is killing thousands of not-white people, making laws classing black people as inhuman, and holding people slaves not racist, blaming the white people who forced the locals to hand them over at the point of a gun, and then shipping them to the US for that slavery is. Wow.
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