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Post by worlder on Mar 15, 2011 21:15:51 GMT -5
Hmm, Wikipedia is a good start for an overview.
The thing is that her thoughts intrigue me in the sense that a fictional character holding her thoughts (lol Bioshock) makes for a great mastermind (yes I know the KTS term).
I cannot rely on news sites, since they only make passing mention of her. Nor can I (nor would I) turn to libertarian sources, due to them simply utilizing her words to promote their agenda.
Now I'm sure amazon has copies of Atlas Shrugged ready to ship as well as a good visit to a library would suffice, but I would like to get some more info online before I turn to the books.
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Post by priestling on Mar 15, 2011 21:31:50 GMT -5
The amusing thing about Objectivism (in talking to a friend of mine) is that with one single act of altruism, the whole thing falls apart. I routinely giggle myself to death at that thought.
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Post by discoberry on Mar 15, 2011 22:04:27 GMT -5
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Post by worlder on Mar 15, 2011 22:09:59 GMT -5
But that is the interpretation. I don't want that. It is like reading about African jungles and actually going to the Congo. Of course you guys are now going to tell me "Well go check out her books, then." |
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Post by MaybeNever on Mar 15, 2011 23:10:39 GMT -5
I'm not sure what more anyone here could add that isn't already in wikipedia's article, particularly since you apparently don't want interpretation of events. Do check out her books. Or maybe go check out a biography of her (maybe an autobiography, if she wrote one) if you want detail.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Mar 15, 2011 23:27:10 GMT -5
If you check out one of her books, be sure to have plenty of coffee on hand. Or speed.
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Mar 15, 2011 23:43:33 GMT -5
And maybe that movie theatre setup from Clockwork Orange.
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Post by Vene on Mar 16, 2011 0:10:10 GMT -5
And maybe that movie theatre setup from Clockwork Orange. Just read A Clockwork Orange instead, it's far better. |
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Post by chad sexington on Mar 16, 2011 0:37:41 GMT -5
How does the book compare to the movie?
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Post by arrowdeath on Mar 16, 2011 0:44:21 GMT -5
Hmm, Wikipedia is a good start for an overview. The thing is that her thoughts intrigue me in the sense that a fictional character holding her thoughts (lol Bioshock) makes for a great mastermind (yes I know the KTS term). I cannot rely on news sites, since they only make passing mention of her. Nor can I (nor would I) turn to libertarian sources, due to them simply utilizing her words to promote their agenda. Now I'm sure amazon has copies of Atlas Shrugged ready to ship as well as a good visit to a library would suffice, but I would like to get some more info online before I turn to the books. Fun fact: Bioshock is a critique of the society Ayn Rand idealizes (for anyone who didn't know), and how quickly it would fall apart. I didn't even realize this until a friend pointed it out. It's all in the names. |
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Mar 16, 2011 0:52:31 GMT -5
How does the book compare to the movie? Has the movie even been released yet? |
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Post by chad sexington on Mar 16, 2011 0:57:22 GMT -5
I meant Clockwork Orange. I should have quoted Vene in the post, but didn't think of it  |
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Post by ltfred on Mar 16, 2011 1:16:35 GMT -5
If you check out one of her books, be sure to have plenty of coffee on hand. Or speed. She wrote the book on methamphetamines. That's why it's so preachy and angry. She also idealised psychopathic murderers and thieves as 'productive' or 'unique'. And she loved unions, but only rich-people unions. Poor people didn't deserve the right to negotiate for more pay, only rich people. If you want to read Rand, read Also Sprach Zarathustra, it's better. Everything's stolen from Nietzche anyway. Or, even better, listen to Strauss. It's the only good thing that came out of that philosophy. |
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Post by MaybeNever on Mar 16, 2011 1:34:22 GMT -5
Alternate possibility: read Marx and Engels, but put the word "not" in front of every sentence.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Mar 16, 2011 1:50:08 GMT -5
Alternate possibility: read Marx and Engels, but put the word "not" in front of every sentence. This. Ayn Rand's entire philosophy is, essentially, anti-communism. You know how there's "anti-matter"? Similar concept. |
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