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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 29, 2011 18:16:06 GMT -5
The ancient jews didn't invent a lot. a great deal of their folklore seems to be borrowed.
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Post by sidburn on Nov 29, 2011 18:35:04 GMT -5
Anything that implies that they think Jesus was as obsessed with abortion and homosexuality as they are, and/or that he would tell poor people to kwitcherbitchin and get a job
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Post by clockworkgirl21 on Nov 29, 2011 18:48:41 GMT -5
There's something here I really hate every time it comes up. It's sexist to say men were created first and therefor better than women, true. But then people turn around and say it means women would be better because they're improved from the original?
Is sexism bad, or isn't it?
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Post by N. De Plume on Nov 29, 2011 18:53:22 GMT -5
There's something here I really hate every time it comes up. It's sexist to say men were created first and therefor better than women, true. But then people turn around and say it means women would be better because they're improved from the original? Is sexism bad, or isn't it? I think the goal is to show that trying to take any sort of significance from a “first created” scenario can be read differently and turned around. I don’t think anyone that used “women are an improved model” as a counterargument really believed that to be the actual case.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 29, 2011 19:09:32 GMT -5
"You support x" wherein x is rape, racism, murder, or whatever crime against humanity they want to twist your worldview into being about because someone who shares it or something tangentially similar once said something that looks sort of like that if you squint. And they continue to insist that evolution/atheism/whatthefuckever has no explanation for not doing that, even after you explain that (A) it doesn't need to but (B) it has one anyway.
On a related note, "The doctrines of the religion of atheism are [insert scientific theories or humanist concepts here]." Fuck off. You clearly have no concept of what those words even MEAN, you just know what you THINK they mean from your idle observations. I bet it'd blow your fucking mind to know that "irony" isn't "any humorous coincidence," too. You have no business telling me why all of that shit is "obviously wrong" when you can't even tell they are different things.
"Gays were molested." I didn't used to hate this more than any other phrase, but it's starting to piss me off. Most other scientific myths Fundies tout seem to be at least slowly dying off, if anything, this one's picking up speed. And it's just so wrong on every conceivable level. Let's rephrase that: "If you are raped, you become a rapist." And you don't see why that's so fucking offensive to people? Get the fuck out of here.
"You're here because God led you to the light/denying because Satan told you to." Bitch, did I not just tell you why I'm doing whatever it is I'm doing, probably because you asked in the first damn place?
That "hard heart" thing. You know the one. "Oh, the fact that you call 'Jesus' 'Jebus' is so offensive, it shows the hardness of your heart." God damn it. Not everything is a freaking moral crisis. Maybe I'm just not as much of a whiney prat as you are.
"Something can't come from nothing, this violates the laws of physics!" Listen, Einstein, if there wasn't a universe, and then there was one, it means there was either an exception to this law or some kind of extra-universal energy source. "God" is not any more legitimate of an option.
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 29, 2011 19:24:59 GMT -5
There's something here I really hate every time it comes up. It's sexist to say men were created first and therefor better than women, true. But then people turn around and say it means women would be better because they're improved from the original? Is sexism bad, or isn't it? Often depends on the gender of the speaker, same way that black people can't be racist, women can't be sexist.
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Post by Vermicious Knid on Nov 29, 2011 19:33:16 GMT -5
"Keep Christ in Christmas." Who exactly is trying to take it out? Sure, the holiday is ridiculously commercialized, but Christians will always have the right to ignore that side of it and observe it in the religious way, and they're never going to lose that right. Last I checked, there was no shortage of Nativity scenes, angels and other religious symbols for sale in most stores. And they stole the holiday from someone else to start with, so they have no room to yammer about oppression and persecution when the cashier tells them "happy holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas."
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Post by The_L on Nov 29, 2011 19:33:27 GMT -5
LHM, bullshit. There are definitely sexist women out there.
As for annoying phrases, anything that implies that the Bible is 100% literally, factually accurate, simply because it's allegedly "God's Word." IT WAS WRITTEN DOWN BY HUMAN BEINGS, YOU DOUCHE.
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 29, 2011 19:36:29 GMT -5
LHM, bullshit. There are definitely sexist women out there. I think your sarcsm detector needs adjustment. Of course there are sexist women and racist black people.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 29, 2011 19:43:42 GMT -5
Related to what L said, really anything that implies the Bible is RELEVENT. It can be as True Word of God as it wants, the fact that it's so "context" dependent means it's all but impossible to correctly apply to your day-to-day life.
BUT GOD TOLD ME WHAT TO DO SO S'COOL.
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 29, 2011 19:57:51 GMT -5
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Post by rageaholic on Nov 29, 2011 21:36:42 GMT -5
"Spare the rod, spoil the child"
-Every child abuse advocates favorite verse. I want to beat them with a bible every time they say it.
"We are all sinners and deserve hell"
To be fair, the "we are all sinners" can be spun positively to tell others to get off their high horse. But of course the black and white view of fundie morality compares looking at a woman "lustfully" to murder. Their entire view of morality is about following some arbitrary list of donts that are considered "sins" so no wonder it's so skewed.
As for deserving hell, that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. We're talking about a place that is supposed to make Auschwitz look like a resort hotel and we all DESERVE that? No wonder fundies are so heartless and cruel.
And lastly
"Gods ways our not our ways"
Used any time when they can't explain the many plot holes of their faith. Might as well be saying "fuck it, we don't have to use logic, we have gawd on our side!".
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 29, 2011 21:56:59 GMT -5
"God operates under different logic" is better, because I can effectively use that phrase to make anything "make sense."
If canteloupe, then beaver, thusly apricot, therefore brick wall, but not on leap year plus or minus skipping rope.
THAT SHIT MADE PERFECT FUCKING SENSE TO GAWD. HE IS SO SMART.
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Post by Kali on Nov 29, 2011 21:59:44 GMT -5
I agree with a lot of these.
Especially hate the whole "war on Christmas." Yeah, 'cause this is totally a Christian state where everyone celebrates Christmas. What the hell is wrong with saying "happy holidays?" It's a lot easier than saying "Happy Christmas, Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, Yuletide, or Ramadan" to everyone.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 29, 2011 22:19:36 GMT -5
Don't you know? "This country was founded on Christian ideals/this is a Christian nation, everyone else can either put up with it or get out!"
What's wrong with it is that some people are too petty to recognize that they don't own everyone else's freedoms of belief & expression.
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