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Post by nickiknack on Dec 5, 2011 23:29:52 GMT -5
So when do we start burning the copies of It's A Wonderful Life??? Poor Mr. Potter...
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Post by sylvana on Dec 6, 2011 1:59:06 GMT -5
I really wonder where this whole "I am rich, stop persecuting me for being rich" mentality came from in the right wing in America. Not to mention how everything becomes communism vs the rich capitalism. They seem to have a really special kind of reality blocking glasses.
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Post by N. De Plume on Dec 6, 2011 9:08:25 GMT -5
I really wonder where this whole "I am rich, stop persecuting me for being rich" mentality came from in the right wing in America. I think it may have stemmed from a pre-emptive attempt to start a Big Lie in order to give them an edge when the class war broke out into the open. It is right up there with the lie at the liberals have only just started said class war.
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Post by rookie on Dec 6, 2011 9:18:23 GMT -5
*Minor spoilers* He was buying it legally, but lying to Statler and Waldorf about why he wanted to buy it and he resorted to blatantly criminal acts of vandalism/destruction of property to prevent The Muppets from legally raising the money to prevent the sale. In short, his overall plan (buy, bulldoze, and dig for oil on the muppet studios property) wasn't really portrayed as outright evil. It as the actions he took to further that plan that were. That's about right. Except you left out one little (yet very important) detail. IT'S THE FUCKING MUPPETS!! IT'S A GODDAMN MOVIE ADAPTATION OF WHAT HAS BECOME A KID'S SHOW!! Tex was the bad guy because he was trying to take a theater owned by lovable iconic puppets. And he was doing this in a kid's movie. I really hate when the "other side" does this. They see kid's shows, with kid's plots and story lines and writing etc., and go looking for things to get outraged about.
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Post by vesus on Dec 6, 2011 11:30:52 GMT -5
*Minor spoilers* He was buying it legally, but lying to Statler and Waldorf about why he wanted to buy it and he resorted to blatantly criminal acts of vandalism/destruction of property to prevent The Muppets from legally raising the money to prevent the sale. In short, his overall plan (buy, bulldoze, and dig for oil on the muppet studios property) wasn't really portrayed as outright evil. It as the actions he took to further that plan that were. That's about right. Except you left out one little (yet very important) detail. IT'S THE FUCKING MUPPETS!! IT'S A GODDAMN MOVIE ADAPTATION OF WHAT HAS BECOME A KID'S SHOW!! Tex was the bad guy because he was trying to take a theater owned by lovable iconic puppets. And he was doing this in a kid's movie. I really hate when the "other side" does this. They see kid's shows, with kid's plots and story lines and writing etc., and go looking for things to get outraged about. Contrived outrage is something of an industry in the conservative media...I really think Fox assigns people to search for things to feign outrage over.
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Post by Professor Cold Heart on Dec 6, 2011 12:00:24 GMT -5
One of the comments on the Mail article:
In fairness, The Muppets vs. The United States Communist Party would make an awesome sequel.
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Post by booley on Dec 6, 2011 13:13:50 GMT -5
I really wonder where this whole "I am rich, stop persecuting me for being rich" mentality came from in the right wing in America. Not to mention how everything becomes communism vs the rich capitalism. They seem to have a really special kind of reality blocking glasses. It's rovian projection though rove didn't invent it, just used it a lot. Accuse your enemy of being/doing whatever you are guilty of. So war heroes become traitors to their country, civil rights activists are bigots and of course the weak and powerless poor bully the powerful super rich. (especially if you're wall street) It distracts from the smell of your shit by putting your accuser on the defensive.
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Post by kzn02 on Dec 6, 2011 17:35:01 GMT -5
Statler: do you what would be worse than watching the muppets perform? Waldorf: what? Statler: watching FOX News. Both: Do-ho-ho-ho-hoh!
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Post by Meshakhad on Dec 6, 2011 19:19:27 GMT -5
Contrived outrage is something of an industry in the conservative media...I really think Fox assigns people to search for things to feign outrage over. I want that job! I'd have fun with it. To start, I'd talk about how anything Kardashian related is evil. Then I'd attack Twilight as satanic. And so on.
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Post by Thejebusfire on Dec 6, 2011 19:56:37 GMT -5
One of the comments on the Mail article: In fairness, The Muppets vs. The United States Communist Party would make an awesome sequel. Now I'm imagining Kermit hitting a communist over the head with his banjo.
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Post by clockworkgirl21 on Dec 6, 2011 21:08:37 GMT -5
Hard work is part of it, but you can probably bet that business owner had some money to start with. You can't start a business with nothing. You can bet he wasn't forced to work minimum wage 12 hours a day just to scrape by.
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Post by ironbite on Dec 6, 2011 21:11:34 GMT -5
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Post by Kit Walker on Dec 6, 2011 21:29:37 GMT -5
That's about right. Except you left out one little (yet very important) detail. IT'S THE FUCKING MUPPETS!! IT'S A GODDAMN MOVIE ADAPTATION OF WHAT HAS BECOME A KID'S SHOW!! Tex was the bad guy because he was trying to take a theater owned by lovable iconic puppets. And he was doing this in a kid's movie. I really hate when the "other side" does this. They see kid's shows, with kid's plots and story lines and writing etc., and go looking for things to get outraged about. Except you're wrong, at least partially. Jim Henson created The Muppet Show and the Muppet movies to appeal to both children and adults. There were meant to be jokes, themes, and references that could be enjoyed on two levels. Jason Segal, being a huge muppet fan, seems to have actually worked at making that the case once more. The children can see Tex Richman as evil for trying to take away The Muppet theater, the adults can see him as evil for lying and cheating his way to it. Or didja think that the jokes about Tab and New Coke were meant to appeal to the kids?
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Post by lighthorseman on Dec 6, 2011 21:42:11 GMT -5
I really wonder where this whole "I am rich, stop persecuting me for being rich" mentality came from in the right wing in America. Not to mention how everything becomes communism vs the rich capitalism. They seem to have a really special kind of reality blocking glasses. Well its easier to just get self righteously indignant and polarised than it is to discuss actual issues. Because nuance is HARD.
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Post by discoberry on Dec 6, 2011 21:58:59 GMT -5
Saved by the Bell did an oil under the school episode...does that make them communists too?
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