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Post by RavynousHunter on Dec 31, 2011 15:31:12 GMT -5
Soooooo...instead of telling 'er to shut up, how about you explain it, Clarissa?
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Post by Vene on Dec 31, 2011 16:00:35 GMT -5
Soooooo...instead of telling 'er to shut up, how about you explain it, Clarissa? I'm not going to bother explaining a concept that requires so much foundational knowledge on a bloody internet forum.
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Post by jackmann on Dec 31, 2011 16:20:01 GMT -5
Long story short: There's no reason to think these things are possible. It's nice to imagine, but our understanding indicates that no, we're not likely to get warp drive out of these phenomena. Doesn't mean we're not going to keep looking into them, and maybe trying, but it's unlikely. Very unlikely. Less likely still that aliens visited Earth using these methods but left absolutely no traces. It therefore isn't reasonable to treat it as a serious proposition.
To put it another way, one could posit that God created the universe a week ago last Thursday, but in such a way that it seems to have been around thirteen-odd-billion-years, but it's so much more easily explained by the universe actually being nice and old that it's not a reasonable proposition.
Look, I understand wanting these things to be real. I want to see life on other worlds. I want there to be warp drive, or hyperdrive, or subspace drives or whatever will let me flip the bird to the speed of light. I want to explore distant galaxies. But I also acknowledge that we'll never understand the universe by grasping at straws. And there are so many neat, wonderful things out there that we have discovered by quiet, unassuming research. But actually looking at what's there, not what we want to be there.
I don't know how old you are. If you're in school, start talking to your science teachers about getting a good, basic grounding in science. If you're not, maybe sign up for some classes at the community college, or buy some reputable science texts. Become educated on the subject. There are wonders out there I can't even begin to describe, but we have to open our eyes and face them squarely. Science doesn't say alien visitors or quantum wedgies or what have you aren't real because scientists are a bunch of fuddy-duddies, it says they're probably not because that's what the evidence says. But it's got some even more awesome things to look at if you give it a chance.
Educate yourself, and I don't mean that as a dig, but as a plea, and a promise of wonderful things.
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Post by nickiknack on Dec 31, 2011 23:12:42 GMT -5
You know I find the whole "Ancient Aliens" bs to be a insult, what they're saying that ancient people were too dumb to discover things on their own therefore it was "Aliens" that are the cause of the discoveries...grrrrr
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Jan 1, 2012 1:03:41 GMT -5
I also remember hearing one idea was that aliens were responsible for the Black Plague.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Jan 1, 2012 2:41:20 GMT -5
You should be. Space is big. Very, very big. Visiting another solar system would be even more difficult than climbing a ladder from the Earth all the way to the moon. It'd take longer and consume more energy. Inter-solar system travel just cannot happen on a timescale applicable to living creatures. Even at the speed of light the nearest star outside our solar system is over four years away. Sorry, no visits from ET have happened. Or will happen. Well, there's wormholes & other weird quantum physics stuff. If beings from space are really advanced they probably have the tech to do it. I've seen some stuff on more legit documentaries with various physicists & mathematicians discussing quantum mechanics, wormholes, curved space, parallel universes, etc. One would be a fool to not free their mind & consider the vast posibilities. I've seen "legit documentaries" say some stupid shit and accredited scientists have believed some stupid shit. There are biologists that believe in Creationism. Not "Intelligent Design." Actual "God poofed everything into existence exactly as it is approximately 6,000 years ago." Geologists, too. I'd love to know where you saw these "legit documentaries" and the names of them so I can look into who made them. It's pretty easy to make yourself look perfectly legitimate and trustworthy when you're speaking to a lay-person.
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Post by ltfred on Jan 1, 2012 3:41:02 GMT -5
Personally, I'm waiting for the Dune-navigators.
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Post by itachirumon on Jan 1, 2012 4:01:48 GMT -5
95% of the honkey I've seen is on History Channel specials, like I've already said, I mostly watch them when I'm in that mood where I feel like I'll believe the bullshit they're selling long enough to have my mind blown and get that x-files effect of "Woahhh, that's some freaky shiiit man" - then I come to my senses later and wonder why the fuck it weirded me out.
...And then I skulk around /x/ until I find something sufficiently freaky to weird my hyper rational mind out until I'm too scared to sleep u.u...because that's how strange people have a good time, right?
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Post by Iczer-Four on Jan 1, 2012 5:50:22 GMT -5
Personally, I'm waiting for the Dune-navigators. Send a third stage Guild Navigator to Kaitan to demand details from the Emperor. The spice must flow...
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Post by nickiknack on Jan 1, 2012 16:58:14 GMT -5
I'm waiting for Ewoks & Jawas...I want one of each as a pet.
That being said it should be funny starting next year, when the History Channel freaks out over the world not ending, whatever will they run instead of the doomsday bs.
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Post by shadowpanther on Jan 1, 2012 18:06:53 GMT -5
I'm waiting for Ewoks & Jawas...I want one of each as a pet. That being said it should be funny starting next year, when the History Channel freaks out over the world not ending, whatever will they run instead of the doomsday bs. Isn't it obvious? They'll blow up the world themselves.
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Post by Oriet on Jan 1, 2012 19:27:55 GMT -5
I'm waiting for Ewoks & Jawas...I want one of each as a pet. That being said it should be funny starting next year, when the History Channel freaks out over the world not ending, whatever will they run instead of the doomsday bs. Isn't it obvious? They'll blow up the world themselves. No they won't, they'll get the aliens to do it for them.
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Post by SpukiKitty on Jan 7, 2012 13:07:17 GMT -5
*sigh* I can't recall specific documentaries but I can post this. Scientists have been considering the posibility of wormholes & alternate universes. Yes, I'm aware it's stupid Wikipedia but I figure a good Wiki entry with high standards is better than anything. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormholeen.wikipedia.org/wiki/WormholeSigh, I'm sorry for my previous nasty post. I'll remove it. My reaction was uncalled for. Perhaps you're taking issue with artifically-created wormholes. Keep in mind, also that I think the "Ancient Astronaut" shows are garbage, too. Erich von Dankien & that weird-hair guy can eat my shorts! Wanna know mythological interpretation....check out Joseph Campbell. He understands the use of Archetypes, Metaphors, Symbolism, etc. The von Dankien bunch are literalists & Euro-centerists. Schmucks, all of them.
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Post by gyeonghwa on Jan 7, 2012 22:32:02 GMT -5
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Post by SpukiKitty on Jan 10, 2012 6:38:26 GMT -5
You know I find the whole "Ancient Aliens" bs to be a insult, what they're saying that ancient people were too dumb to discover things on their own therefore it was "Aliens" that are the cause of the discoveries...grrrrr That's my contention.
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