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Post by booley on Jan 1, 2012 14:31:37 GMT -5
.... "This photo is a picture of a man who is strapped to a chair naked inside a jail for hours with a hood over his face. .... Having talked to a few friends who had been jail, apparently being tied naked to a chair for hours or days at a time is not all that unusual. So while lighthorseman said this in a douchey way, he's right in that this is not an isolated incident. It happens all over and if it is against any rules, the cops don't seem to get in trouble for it. And being hooded is a form of sensory deprivation which when done too long and involuntarily is psychologically damaging. Since eventually these guys are going to be released back into society, do we really want to make them less mentally stable?
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Post by dasfuchs on Jan 1, 2012 15:23:26 GMT -5
I prefer "less than lethal" as a taser or pepper spray has a chance of killing a healthy person even when used correctly. But you are absolutely correct that they are meant to replace guns. If it is not appropriate for a cop to pull out a pistol, it is not appropriate for the cop to use a taser or pepper spray. I kind of wonder if less than lethal weapons are one of those nice things we can't have, at least cops don't shoot people for speeding. The thing is, stuff like pepper spray wasn't meant only to replace guns. It was meant to help cops subdue perps. Up till that point it was either gun or fistfight.
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Post by tiado on Jan 2, 2012 18:11:33 GMT -5
You can be wary of somebody without outright despising them. I don't really expect a response. But I figured I should expand on things. I have to apologize for flying off the handle, but I have never once had a positive interaction with the police... Ever. When my brother and I were growing up, we were harassed by the police almost all the time, like we were guilt of something. And hearing stories about cops beating the shit out of people then getting away with it makes me want to rage.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Jan 2, 2012 18:38:47 GMT -5
It makes me angry too especially considering my training and knowing a lot of cops who also hate stuff like this incident.
But I think the problem seemed to be is that people thought I was defending what these types of cops do. I'm not. I never would defend that. I defend the innocent ones. The ones who do their jobs right, who help that kitten and save that little kid.
I myself have had a lot of positive interactions but that doesn't mean I don't believe shit like this can't or doesn't happen. I hate that it does. And I hate that it colors peoples' ideas of your average cop.
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Post by D Laurier on Jan 4, 2012 0:13:18 GMT -5
The only thing isolated, was the wealth of the victim. This sort of shit is all too common, but usualy only those folks too poor to afford a lawyer get to experience it. I do speak from personal experience. The act of walking to work on a weekday morning was enough to make them attack. I missed 4 days of work the first time it happened. I spent several hours chained to a chair with a phonebook duct taped to my face. They just kept punching me. They never gave a reason.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Jan 4, 2012 0:47:22 GMT -5
You know I went and googled this shit, just to see how isolated it is. Here is what I found: Reported brutality by the police (this is just talking about beating up suspects, etc.,) went DOWN last year in many states of the US compared to 2009. DC went down a whole hell of a lot and nobody is really sure why. This graph has more info but it's too big to link. Please note it's simply misconduct which can mean anything under the sun but does indeed include abuseThis is just from one source. Here's another I got from another source which is filled with a lot of cops or former cops out to find the cases of police brutality and get the arrests and convictions of those who sully the uniform (though the original info can be found from injusticeeverywhere.com as well as other places ) : (Please note there are more than 861,000 police officers and detectives in the United States) All of the info was collected for an entire year then compiled together. It is the most recent information available and I apologize if not having all of 2010's numbers is undesirable. As a bit of extra info police deaths rose 37% last year.
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