RR and their rules

[The_L]

First of all, they break their own rules all the time.

[02] No posting sexual stories, gruesome crimes, horror stories, nor any other sin sick related stories

Considering that they call anything remotely related to homosexuality a "sin sick relate story," they break the hell out of this one.

[03] No blasphemy of the Holy Spirit in mocking God, His character, or using God's name in vain. God is referred to as God and/or Jehovah, Yahweh, etc.... When discussing Allah we refer to the Muslim god, not the Jewish/Christian God of the Old and New testament.

Never mind that YHWH/God/Allah are all the same god, and that mocking one is the same as mocking them all.

[05] Do not promote insurrection propaganda or fear based threads on FEMA camps and other government conspiracies. Our primary focus is current news regarding biblical prophecy.

OK, so saying bad things about FEMA is a conspiracy theory, but "t3h Demon-crats are gonna shut down RR any day now!" isn't?

[06] Do not promote false teachings , false prophets, heretical movements, paganism, ritualism, Two House, Ten Lost Tribes, Third Wave Latter Rain, Words of Faith (WOF), Words of Knowledge (WOK), extra biblical teachings from tele-preachers, Vineyard teachings, Dominion theology, Soul Sleep, Signs & Wonders, Gospel to the Stars, the Mazzaroth, Toronto Blessings, I.H.O.Prayer, 7th Day (Sabbath) keeping, liturgy of works and practices for obtaining and maintaining salvation, ecumenism, false scriptures such as the Pseudepigrapha , Apocrypha, Bible codes, Ufology, Inccubi, Succubi, Angelic procreation and cloning, demon seeds, or any other extra biblical preoccupations with demonic and extrasensory beliefs.

Because Rapture theory, as expressed on RR, is 100% literal Word of Gawd straight from the Bible. Yeah, and I'm Balaam's donkey.

[07] No Dream threads or threads supporting 'Words of Knowledge', WOF, Angel or Ghost sightings, Rapture dreams or prophetic visions, Words of Faith, Bible Codes, personal spiritual encounters, astrology, star gazing, Rapture trumpet sounds, the Hebrew zodiac, Jesus comets, personal messages or words from God, personal letters from Jesus, self perceived signs of future events, unique events perceived as signs from God, personal prophecies, cloud formations, Holy Laughter, psychic abilities, trips to heaven or hell and back, or any other subjective experiences that suggest these observations are common Christian experiences.

This one is probably in response to FSTDT singling out those posts to laugh at. But it still hasnt' stopped some RR members from going on about how XYZ is a sign of the End Times.

[10] Treat others with dignity & respect (as you like being treated). No name calling, teasing, wisecracks, talking down to, or belittling members or the Moderation Team. No sowing discord in a joking or argumentative behavior in the spirit of dissension or the guise of 'just kidding', or off hand comments of how you have been treated by others. Rationally discuss the argument and do not attack our members or mods. Luke 6:31

Either this rule only applies to other RR members (which is not explicitly stated), or it's broken more often than little pretzel sticks.

[12] Do not complain about other message boards or their members.

"Except for FSTDT, because they're horrible godless heathens." Whoops!

[13] No plotting to overthrow the American government. No Conspiracy theories such as FEMA camps....Practice your faith through prayer trusting God always providing our needs and never forsaking us. Hebrews 13:5 Psalms 37:25

You know, except for all those "Obama isn't really President"/"Assassinate Obama" threads. We didn't like Bush, either, but we didn't go around telling people he deserved to die!

[14] No posts or links from other message boards, forums, or political and religious blogs on this site or posting messages here on other message boards, forums, or political and religious blogs.

See Rule 12.

[15] No promotion of Mid, Post Tribulation, Prewrath, Preterism, or Replacement theology. This board is traditional Pre-Tribulation Rapture, Pre 6 Seals, Pre 70th week, and Pre-Millennial Dispensational of End Times Prophecy. No posting alternative theories from other websites. We believe in a literal 7 year Tribulation period, after the instantaneous Rapture of all regenerated believers in unison, during which God finishes His discipline of Israel, protects Israel, and finalizes His judgments on the unbelieving world. Salvation will remain open to people trusting in Jesus for salvation up to the Second Coming.
No suggestions of living righteously enough for the rapture, or salvation unattainable after the Rapture is allowed.
All discussions on these topics must follow suit. Jesus said we won't know the day nor hour of His return and always be ready keeping watch.

This is a direct contradiction of Rule 5, because 7 years of Tribulation aren't mentioned in the Bible, and pre-Trib Rapture is a very new, non-Biblical Christian belief.

[22] Do Not Judge In An Unrighteous Manner - Determining that someone is less of, or not truly a Christian because of a perceived lack of spiritual gifts, worship style, observance or non-observance of holidays, divorced or remarried, political affiliation, not voting for a specific candidate, dressing a certain way, believing in free will, experiencing various trials, or because someone who confesses they are saved by grace through faith in Christ, is not judging righteously. All members are encouraged to examine and judge doctrine in light of Biblical truth, but their eternal salvation is judged only by Jesus Christ. (John 7:24; Matthew 7:1-2; John 5:25-29, I Corinthians 4:5)

But damning non-Christians is totally judging in a righteous manner, right? I mean, we all know they're going to that place they don't believe in when they die!

[24] No Cultic material - Teachings that do not agree with Scripture are not to be promoted here. This includes, but is not limited to, Mormonism, Jehovah Witness, Scientology, Masons, Free Masons, Elks, Moose, Christian Identity, New Age, Shepherd's Chapel, Sacred Name Movements, works based faiths such as Roman Catholicism, and Seventh Day Adventist, Church of Christ teachings. Those who adhere to these beliefs are welcome to discuss Christianity in the Apologetics forum. (Galatians 1:6-8)

Never mind that RR is just one step away from a cult itself--this is essentially a restating of Rule 5, and is not necessary. Also, pre-Trib Rapture doesn't agree with the average person's interpretation of the Bible.

[26] No statements supporting renewed (Inter-spirituality) - the blending of contemplative prayer and uniting of all religions (Ecumenism) including any suggestions the church needs a mystical (Emerging/Emergent) myth Gospel, that Jesus Christ is not the only way to salvation, or the Interfaith beliefs that all religions and faiths lead to heaven (Universalism), or any other universalistic concepts of "salvation" (that all the sincere find heaven) are usually regarded as "finding the god within you," (Panentheism) and god is in everything (Pantheism).

So non-Christians aren't allowed to post apologetics? Make up your minds, please!

[27] No Speculations on the Causes of Natural Disasters onto people or cities as being Judgments from God - We are still living in the Age of Grace. God deals with individuals on a personal salvation basis and speculations of natural disasters and the timings of isolated or random natural disasters upon others due to political, economic, or religious actions taken by governments, societies, or individuals does not warrant a direct judgment from God. Luke 13:2-5 II Peter 3:7-13

Oh, this is a big one. Every time an RR member posts that something "could be a sign of the End Times," they're basically saying that that thing is a judgment from God.

Now that I've gotten the mockery out of the way, I can't help thinking that RR's rule list is ridiculously long and bloated. They circumscribe user speech in such a way that there's hardly anything meaningful that can be said without being shot down by the mods. Is it any wonder, then, that so many of their posts are vacuous and juvenile?

[The Lazy One]

The one thing that sticks out to me the most is 22] Do Not Judge In An Unrighteous Manner - Determining that someone is less of, or not truly a Christian because of a perceived lack of spiritual gifts, worship style, observance or non-observance of holidays, divorced or remarried, political affiliation, not voting for a specific candidate, dressing a certain way, believing in free will, experiencing various trials, or because someone who confesses they are saved by grace through faith in Christ, is not judging righteously.

They whack anyone who's not Republican upside the head with the banhammer. Bit hypocritical, don't you think?

[Maryland Bear]

Basically, it boils down to "agree with the mod's theology and politics or else"

[gomer21xx]

I'm glad I don't post there. ^^;

I couldn't last long without firing off something about Jesus peeing napalm into a pig's eye socket or something.

[mistermuncher]

Consistency, like accuracy, tact, diplomacy, reason, a sense of perspective and logic is something only expected of those outside the cult. The rules exist solely to erase anyone who endeavours to make the place even slightly less an echo chamber.

[the sandman]

Well, to be fair, RR is not now, nor has it ever been, a "discussion" board of any kind. It has always been a "Like-for-Like" board where people who already agree on the issues meet to tell each other how much they agree on the issues.

And to be honest, there's nothing wrong with that, if that's what the owners of RR want it to be. But you can't really compare RR to FSTDT. They are completely different things. RR is a place for like-minded individuals to meet and read posts from others that reinforce and complement their own mindsets. FSTDT is a place for bloody-minded individuals to meet and read posts from others that challenge everything they think and say. It's apples and oranges.

I have nothing against RR as an internet presence. It's only when they start condemning and calling for action against everyone and everything that does not agree with their philosophy that I have a problem with them.

[Tiger]

I think the funniest one isn't listed in the official rules. According to the mods when they were deleting some threads a few of us started, atheists (or rather, non-fundies) are allowed to ask questions in Apologetics... as long as they shut up and accept the answers, and not continue to argue the point. No matter how poorly though-out or idiotic those answers are.

[yojetak]

Jul 28, 2009 13:08:07 GMT -5 Tiger said:

I think the funniest one isn't listed in the official rules. According to the mods when they were deleting some threads a few of us started, atheists (or rather, non-fundies) are allowed to ask questions in Apologetics... as long as they shut up and accept the answers, and not continue to argue the point. No matter how poorly though-out or idiotic those answers are.

Haha yeah that rule is good.

They have no idea what apologetics is.

[Sigmaleph]

There's only one real rule, "agree with the mods or GTFO". The posted rules are just excuses for banning people who disagree, and are only applied to people they dislike.


Why, yes, I do like stating the obvious

[Admiral Lithp]

These rules are, in short, impossible to follow. As such, the only way to stay on the board is to get in good with the mods & stay that way.

But I really don't know why they have these. They don't even use them. Most of the time, they just throw out random offenses like "troll" and "spam," then ban you.

What's really funny is that if you point out any of this hypocrisy, you're a "baby," & you need to stop "crying persecution"--no, I'm dead serious--but when it's us, there's always some vague crap about how mean we are over here, & how we pester the innocent Christians endlessly over there.

I'd like to propose a theory: RR members are often speculated as being closet homosexuals. I further hypothesize that the reason they hate homosexuality is because they can't enjoy their "sick, sinful fetish" due to all of their butthurt.

[secularskeptic]

[05] Do not promote insurrection propaganda or fear based threads on FEMA camps and other government conspiracies. Our primary focus is current news regarding biblical prophecy.

Oh fuck me running, I've seen plenty of threads over there around election time about how Obama was going to round up the Christians and put them in FEMA camps.

I think they make these bizzare rules that contradict each other so that they can ban anyone for nothing and then claim they broke the rules that break themselves.

I haven't been to RR in a week. I feel so much cleaner.

[The_L]

Jul 28, 2009 10:03:13 GMT -5 gomer21xx said:

I'm glad I don't post there. ^^;

I couldn't last long without firing off something about Jesus peeing napalm into a pig's eye socket or something.

Seriously, dude, how did you survive living in the Ozarks for all those years?

[Thejebusfire]

Jul 28, 2009 9:58:37 GMT -5 Maryland Bear said:

Basically, it boils down to "agree with the mod's theology and politics or else"

Even though the mod's break their own rules all the time.
Can you get anymore hypocritical?

[Hades]

Jul 28, 2009 15:22:56 GMT -5 Admiral Lithp said:

These rules are, in short, impossible to follow.

Kinda like having free will, yet at the same time willingly choose to follow everything god says without flaw.

[katz]

I've been undercover at RR for a few days now, playing the fool. The one time I disagreed with someone was them discussing Palin. As a young woman about to be married, I posted that I felt guilt for Palin because if she was elected, she'd be away from her young children and a Christian woman's first duty was her family, mentioning offhandedly that McCain was a better choice because he had more experience.

Let me just post the full response...

She has WAY more experience than Obama! If he can get in after just a couple of years in the senate (and he had his eyes on the presidency the entire time), she can get in after being in politics since 1992. She was the mayor of a city and governor of an entire state - how is that not enough experience? She was such an excellent mayor and governor that I knew about and respected her long before the 2008 election was even on anyone's mind. She would make a great president and I would fully support her run.