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Post by Thejebusfire on Sept 14, 2009 22:33:03 GMT -5
So that's what all those emails want me to order Lucky you. I keep getting emails for vibrators and birth control pills. I used to get a bunch of spam emails for free Viagra. Funny, since I was a 17 year old girl at the time.
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Post by cagnazzo on Sept 14, 2009 23:30:32 GMT -5
Lucky you. I keep getting emails for vibrators and birth control pills. I used to get a bunch of spam emails for free Viagra. Funny, since I was a 17 year old girl at the time. Is it normal that now I want to see if it has similar effects in women? I wonder why there aren't tons of studies for this. It seems like an obvious thing to check. But I can't find much information on it.
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Post by Amaranth on Sept 14, 2009 23:51:12 GMT -5
There's a lot of info on the effects of viagra on women. It has similar effects. It's late and I'm still on my notebook or I could probably find stuff on it.
They even sell "viagra for women" now.
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Post by cagnazzo on Sept 15, 2009 0:04:39 GMT -5
There's a lot of info on the effects of viagra on women. It has similar effects. It's late and I'm still on my notebook or I could probably find stuff on it. They even sell "viagra for women" now. That's what I get from reading ten year old articles and not noting the date. Now I feel stupid. I'll go cry in the corner. Though, most of the stuff I can find is on countering the sexually depressive effects of SSRIs. Hmm...
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Post by Art Vandelay on Sept 15, 2009 1:28:08 GMT -5
I used to get a bunch of spam emails for free Viagra. Funny, since I was a 17 year old girl at the time. Is it normal that now I want to see if it has similar effects in women? I wonder why there aren't tons of studies for this. It seems like an obvious thing to check. But I can't find much information on it. IIRC it just opens up blood vessels, so it's highly unlikely it would do much for women.
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Post by cagnazzo on Sept 15, 2009 1:34:39 GMT -5
Is it normal that now I want to see if it has similar effects in women? I wonder why there aren't tons of studies for this. It seems like an obvious thing to check. But I can't find much information on it. IIRC it just opens up blood vessels, so it's highly unlikely it would do much for women. Women have blood vessels too! Or I have, somewhere along the path of my education, been grossly misinformed about human physiology.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Sept 15, 2009 1:51:46 GMT -5
IIRC it just opens up blood vessels, so it's highly unlikely it would do much for women. Women have blood vessels too! Or I have, somewhere along the path of my education, been grossly misinformed about human physiology. Guys need them open to get a hard-on, otherwise sex is physically impossible. Women don't really need anything engorged in order to have sex.
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Post by cagnazzo on Sept 15, 2009 2:09:49 GMT -5
Women have blood vessels too! Or I have, somewhere along the path of my education, been grossly misinformed about human physiology. Guys need them open to get a hard-on, otherwise sex is physically impossible. Women don't really need anything engorged in order to have sex. Er... No, they don't need anything engorged to have sex. But it certainly helps if they want to enjoy it. The tissue develops in a very similar way, and there is erectile tissue, especially in the clitoris. If that's not becoming properly engorged for some reason, that can be a serious detriment. Because the structures are homologous, they likely share most of the receptors, and hence interactions, with each other. So to be honest, I'm not surprised at all to learn that viagra seems to have similar effects on women. A somewhat NSFW image shows what I'm talking about. It's unfortunately small, but you can see the homology. Sexuality's complicated, though, and from what I can see it doesn't help with female arousal. But the engorgement certainly happens, and seems to help individuals with problems in that area.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Sept 15, 2009 2:18:06 GMT -5
Guys need them open to get a hard-on, otherwise sex is physically impossible. Women don't really need anything engorged in order to have sex. Er... No, they don't need anything engorged to have sex. But it certainly helps if they want to enjoy it. The tissue develops in a very similar way, and there is erectile tissue, especially in the clitoris. If that's not becoming properly engorged for some reason, that can be a serious detriment. Because the structures are homologous, they likely share most of the receptors, and hence interactions, with each other. So to be honest, I'm not surprised at all to learn that viagra seems to have similar effects on women. A somewhat NSFW image shows what I'm talking about. It's unfortunately small, but you can see the homology. Sexuality's complicated, though, and from what I can see it doesn't help with female arousal. But the engorgement certainly happens, and seems to help individuals with problems in that area. I didn't know that the clit engorges during sex. Ya learn something new everyday, it would seem. Does this mean women can get "erectile disfunction" too?
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Post by cagnazzo on Sept 15, 2009 2:34:38 GMT -5
I didn't know that the clit engorges during sex. Ya learn something new everyday, it would seem. Does this mean women can get "erectile disfunction" too? I'm not sure. Despite everything I said, it's not quite as important, and vascular issues are unlikely to be as big as in men. I wish I had an M.D. But my knowledge is mostly academic. Anyway, "erectile dysfunction" is a specific dysfunction in men. I'm sure women can get similar disorders, where arousal cannot be maintained. But the clitoris is much smaller, and needs less blood to engorge, so it's unlikely that that would be a huge problem, I would think... Again, though, totally not a doctor. My knowledge really stopped at "homologous structures are probably similar in biochemical response."
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Post by Art Vandelay on Sept 15, 2009 2:53:06 GMT -5
Ah, righto then.
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Post by Amaranth on Sept 15, 2009 7:21:19 GMT -5
I didn't know that the clit engorges during sex. Ya learn something new everyday, it would seem. Does this mean women can get "erectile disfunction" too? Can? Certainly. Not sure they'd necessarily know it, though. Erectile Dysfunction is pretty obvious in a guy, after all, since it impacts the "standard" function of a penis during sex. There's a lot of ignorance regarding female sexuality and even the plumbing. The male analogue is "penis gets hard, enters woman, etc."
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Post by Paradox on Sept 15, 2009 9:40:25 GMT -5
I didn't know that the clit engorges during sex. Ya learn something new everyday, it would seem. Does this mean women can get "erectile disfunction" too? Can? Certainly. Not sure they'd necessarily know it, though. Erectile Dysfunction is pretty obvious in a guy, after all, since it impacts the "standard" function of a penis during sex. There's a lot of ignorance regarding female sexuality and even the plumbing. The male analogue is "penis gets hard, enters woman, etc." I suppose there are some disadvantages to having a fully pneumatic penis.
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Post by cagnazzo on Sept 15, 2009 11:15:13 GMT -5
Can? Certainly. Not sure they'd necessarily know it, though. Erectile Dysfunction is pretty obvious in a guy, after all, since it impacts the "standard" function of a penis during sex. There's a lot of ignorance regarding female sexuality and even the plumbing. The male analogue is "penis gets hard, enters woman, etc." I suppose there are some disadvantages to having a fully pneumatic penis. Yeah, but there are some pretty good advantages. Like being able to walk around saying "Humans have hydraulic penises" all the time. Doesn't everyone do that? Guys?
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Post by Amaranth on Sept 15, 2009 11:34:24 GMT -5
I would, but I was raised to believe talking about that sort of thing was rude.
Hydraulics, of course, not penises.
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