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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Oct 15, 2010 20:58:57 GMT -5
You're devout, not fundie
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Post by Vene on Oct 15, 2010 21:03:13 GMT -5
Fundies are predictable, they don't think for themselves. I know I whored this book out in some other thread, but I'm doing it again. home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Oct 15, 2010 21:13:14 GMT -5
I know you were directing that post at Jlujan, but:
I just scanned through the first chapter of the book. Seems really interesting, so far. Thanks for linking it, it'll give me something to read over the next couple days.
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jlujan69
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Post by jlujan69 on Oct 16, 2010 15:58:58 GMT -5
Fundies are predictable, they don't think for themselves. I know I whored this book out in some other thread, but I'm doing it again. home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/Will read this book, but already noticed that the author doesn't spell some words like a Canadian normally does.
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Post by Phys on Oct 16, 2010 20:16:06 GMT -5
To try to answer Vene's question about the purpose of a ban on gay marriage, there seems to be two common reasons. The simplest is a sense of ownership of the term "marriage" and that "icky" people like gay men shouldn't be allowed to call themselves married (lesbians, OTOH...), which isn't very logical but which is very common (I held this view for a while, back when I was repressing myself). A reasonable number of political moderates I know follow this view.
The other is a belief that allowing gays to marry will help make homosexuality seem more socially acceptable, which will encourage people to come out and sin, rather than repressing themselves and pretending to be straight, or remaining celibate all their lives. To be fair, these people do seem to be opposed to adultery and other sexual sins in word if not in deed, but they don't (in my experience) generally like the idea that god can deal with the sinners in his own time.
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Oct 17, 2010 4:33:39 GMT -5
Fundies are predictable, they don't think for themselves. I know I whored this book out in some other thread, but I'm doing it again. home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/Will read this book, but already noticed that the author doesn't spell some words like a Canadian normally does. Blame Americanization for that (or should that be Americani sation? ). Actually, he probably meant for the book to reach an American audience, hence the spellings.
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Random Agnostic
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Post by Random Agnostic on Nov 11, 2010 16:10:00 GMT -5
I personally can see why religious would put so much emphasis on abortion, seeing that it can be argued that it's murder, especially if it's late term. The evangelical obsession with homosexuality and homosexuals is an example of their priorities not being where they should be. Some evangelicals even think homosexuality is a bigger priority than abortion.
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Post by godlesspanther on Nov 11, 2010 20:08:48 GMT -5
I personally can see why religious would put so much emphasis on abortion, seeing that it can be argued that it's murder, especially if it's late term. The evangelical obsession with homosexuality and homosexuals is an example of their priorities not being where they should be. Some evangelicals even think homosexuality is a bigger priority than abortion. The fundies adapted abortion and anti-gay rights as their platform after the completely lost the war over racial segregation. Falwell and Robertson, for example, were staunch segregationists. After they could no longer hold that position while maintaining any positive public opinion. The took abortion on as their primary focus. The Baptists, before the mid 70s didn't give a rat's ass about abortion for the most part. That was a Catholic hang-up. The Bible says nothing about abortion. The anti-gay rhetoric, as we know it today, was pioneered by a fundie evangelist, singer, and beauty queen Anita Bryant. Bryant was not as well-received back then. She also worked for the Florida Citrus growers to promote the sale of orange juice. Her hateful bigotry lead to an orange juice boycott in the 70s. The Florida Citrus growers fired her. She was largely a joke and ended up discredited and bankrupt. Why the same anti-gay bigotry coming from Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, et al did not lead to the same fate for them is a bit of a mystery. They have been successful in getting their sheep riled up over nothing. That's what counts. Creating the threat that brings in the donations. It has nothing to do with the "reality" of these threats -- all of them are manufactured.
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