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Post by Jedi Knight on Oct 3, 2010 15:33:33 GMT -5
"Your fundiness" sounds like a way of addressing a fundy. In mockery, I must add.
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Post by John E on Oct 3, 2010 19:30:29 GMT -5
Question: Why do you want to be called a fundie? I'd really like to hear (read) your answer. I know you're still around and posting. So why do you want us to call you a fundie? Why do you care?
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jlujan69
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Post by jlujan69 on Oct 5, 2010 15:09:08 GMT -5
Question: Why do you want to be called a fundie? I'd really like to hear (read) your answer. I know you're still around and posting. So why do you want us to call you a fundie? Why do you care? This is my way of "breaking the ice" with you guys---a bit of self deprecating humor, if you will. I do find some of the posits here about my motivation intriguing. I'd thought of introducing myself the way people used to introduce themselves to others at an AA meeting: "Hello, my name is ...... and I am an alcoholic. I've been this way since ......" Except I would say, "Hi, I'm ...... and I'm a fundy. I've been like this since Nov.2002". Go ahead, call me weird.
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Post by Julian on Oct 5, 2010 15:51:56 GMT -5
Some of you have wondered why I label myself a fundy when I don't seem to meet the qualifications laid out in FAQ. Well, this link: itib.org/believe.html is the reason. I guess that doctrinally I'm a fundy and perhaps even politically to a point. I'm basically in agreement with the above site, even if not necessarily on the details. You might say that my religious and moral grounding are fundamentalist, but my experiences in life refine certain aspects of it. Make up your mind - you are or you aren't... The fundamentalist movement defined itself over a hundred years ago on the traits generally listed on that site. (The site has expanded upon the 5 core tenets a little). Did you see the title of the site. There's a VERY important word there. International Testimony to an INFALLIBLE bibleYoung Earth Creationism is just the tip of the iceberg of insanity. Literal bible has a flat earth, stars being dots in a blanket rolled across and myriads (yes thousands) of other impossiblities, absurdities, lies and barbarities. So either you're a fundy - or you're not. INERRANT. You can't be kinda a fundy. Kinda INERRANT. 1. Maintains an immovable allegiance to the inerrant, infallible, and verbally inspired Bible; seriously! 2. Believes that whatever the Bible says is so; 5. Practices fidelity to that Faith and endeavors to preach it to every creature; Well that for starters isn't in the bible, which contradicts one and two, but do you preach to your pets?
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Post by John E on Oct 5, 2010 21:22:30 GMT -5
I'd thought of introducing myself the way people used to introduce themselves to others at an AA meeting: "Hello, my name is ...... and I am an alcoholic. I've been this way since ......" Except I would say, "Hi, I'm ...... and I'm a fundy. I've been like this since Nov.2002". Go ahead, call me weird. Okay, I see. It seemed like you were trying to goad us into calling you a fundie, and I couldn't understand why.
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jlujan69
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Post by jlujan69 on Oct 13, 2010 3:11:46 GMT -5
I've come to the realization that the two groups that tend to contribute the most in the refining of my worldview are Atheists and Fundamenatalist Christians (not "fundies" as defined here). One group diligently looks to human wisdom and the other looks to godly wisdom that we feel gets reflected frequently in human thought. Oddly enough, Atheists and Fund. Christians could be regarded as brothers in the same dysfunctional family.....eh, I think.
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Post by John E on Oct 13, 2010 12:01:19 GMT -5
I think we're ALL siblings in a big dysfunctional family.
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Post by godlesspanther on Oct 22, 2010 18:56:45 GMT -5
The Christian Fundamentalist movement is a 19th century born-in-the-USA religious movement. It was an attempt to capture what some people perceived to be the 'fundamentals' (most basic and essential principles) of true Christianity. The term 'fundie,' as I see it, refers to a socio-political-religious group that originated in the 1970s in the USA with People such as Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Anita Bryant, etc. This group includes some Fundamentalist Christians, some Evangelical Protestants, some conservative Catholics, some conservative Jews. The fundies are promoting a specific political agenda that they justify with their claims of strict adherence to religious principles. Their primary issues are 1. Anti-choice, 2. Anti-gay rights, 3. Anti-science education. Their justification for this political agenda is based on the belief that the United States is really intended to be a Christian theocracy of the right-wing Evangelical Protestant brand.
The above description is what I refer to as the fundies.
There are some Fundamentalist Christians who do not fit into the 'fundie' category primarily because they do not engage in political activity based on their personal religious preference. Some fundamentalist leaders find the idea of injecting political agendas into their church to be abhorrent. Politics naturally comes with corruption, greed, dirty blood money, wars and scandals. Some religious leaders do not want such things infesting the good name of their church. It's downright un-spiritual. (If I were religious, I might be one to have more of this kind of attitude toward it.)
The beginning of the contemporary fundie-ism is clearly rooted in the latter part of the 19th century US. During this time, known as the "age of invention," there were tremendous scientific discoveries that led to technological achievements with an unprecedented prevalence. Technology was creating a profound effect on the day-to-day lives of the GP. Inventions cropping up constantly that appeared miraculous -- yes, miraculous to the public who, generally, did not have the required level of scientific knowledge to fully understand how these things worked.
What was religion to do? How could it compete? It is no co-incidence that this is the time period when the showmanship of tent revivalism entered the picture. Religion became more like the circus then the church. The charismatic evangelists would have their audience dropping to the floor convulsing spasmodically. Trances and tongues, screaming and moaning, these guys put on a show. There is a reason that they are so restrictive and conservative. In order to maintain the authoritarian structure the flock must be kept ignorant. It worked today fundies are ignorant and they have been duped into believing that their ignorance is a virtue, something to be proud of. That is why they say the darndest things.
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Post by darthtoxic on Oct 26, 2010 12:44:27 GMT -5
Yanno, I once knew someone who this reminds me of. She kept insisting she was a fundie (and while she was an annoying fuckhead of the conservative persuasion, I wouldn't call her fundie) and so whenever the term "fundie" was used, to refer to anyone or anything, she would take personal offense and start screeching about bigoted liberals pretending to be tolerant or something.
Why did you have to remind me of that person, jlujan69? Why?!
In any case, I think you're okay, you've got fairly interesting things to say, and so... welcome?
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