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Post by shadoom on Feb 10, 2011 2:57:43 GMT -5
As am I, but I still don't like it that our rhetoric is reaching such a level.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Feb 10, 2011 4:15:19 GMT -5
All this talk of treason and impeachment and dancing on graves; if you swapped Reagan for Obama this thread could easily be on Rapture Ready. I loathe Ronald Reagan because he was an evil, deplorable, soulless monster posing as a human being. Any good he did was more than outweighed by the terrible shit he did. One "wonderful" thing he did was slash federal funding for mental health care. This caused an enormous number of people who were too mentally ill to function to be tossed out on the streets because the various mental hospitals caring for them couldn't afford to care for nearly as many people. Obama, on the other hand, is mostly just an often spineless puppet. A typical politician. Reagan wasn't just a typical politician. He was far worse.
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Feb 10, 2011 4:32:01 GMT -5
It floors me that people can be so stupid as to fail to notice that heavily conservative politicians always end up driving the US economy into the ground.
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Post by shadoom on Feb 10, 2011 6:23:43 GMT -5
I loathe Obama because he is an evil, deplorable, soulless monster posing as a human being. Any good he has done is more than outweighed by the terrible shit he's done. One "wonderful" thing he did was to socialize health care. This will cause an enormous number of people who are too ill to function to be killed by government death panels because the bureaucrats can't be bothered to care for them. Bush, on the other hand, was mostly just an often spineless puppet. A typical politician. Obama isn't just a typical politician. He is far worse. And here is Napoleon's post after going through the RR crazy filter. There's not really any point that I'm trying to make here, I just find it unusual how similar our posts can be to stuff on RR.
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Post by ltfred on Feb 10, 2011 6:59:18 GMT -5
I loathe Obama because he is an evil, deplorable, soulless monster posing as a human being. Any good he has done is more than outweighed by the terrible shit he's done. One "wonderful" thing he did was to socialize health care. This will cause an enormous number of people who are too ill to function to be killed by government death panels because the bureaucrats can't be bothered to care for them. Bush, on the other hand, was mostly just an often spineless puppet. A typical politician. Obama isn't just a typical politician. He is far worse. And here is Napoleon's post after going through the RR crazy filter. There's not really any point that I'm trying to make here, I just find it unusual how similar our posts can be to stuff on RR. This is true. There is a system of grammer attached to the English language. Therefore, sentences are constructed in ways that are broadly similar.
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Post by m52nickerson on Feb 10, 2011 7:31:20 GMT -5
This is true. There is a system of grammer attached to the English language. Therefore, sentences are constructed in ways that are broadly similar. Funny, but it is more then sentence structure. It is the hate and vitriol. Reagan followed a set of ideals down a path he beliefs would lead to the betterment of the country. We can see how those ideals caused massive problems many which are still present. Reagan suffered from a failure in his logic and being out of touch with a lot of the population. He was not some heartless Monster.
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Post by the sandman on Feb 10, 2011 8:34:50 GMT -5
My favorite Reagan bit was the the wacky way a lot of Repubs reacted after Reagan was out of office and the whole Alzheimer's thing came out. I remember my father saying that Iran-contra wasn't Reagan's fault because he wasn't really in control of or aware of what his subordinates were doing. I was like, "How is that better?!" Because in all honesty, if I have to choose between a criminal president in full possession of his faculties or a doddering, senile old man who isn't even aware of what his subordinates are up to....I'll take the criminal.
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Post by Vene on Feb 10, 2011 11:29:35 GMT -5
I loathe Obama because he is an evil, deplorable, soulless monster posing as a human being. Any good he has done is more than outweighed by the terrible shit he's done. One "wonderful" thing he did was to socialize health care. This will cause an enormous number of people who are too ill to function to be killed by government death panels because the bureaucrats can't be bothered to care for them. Bush, on the other hand, was mostly just an often spineless puppet. A typical politician. Obama isn't just a typical politician. He is far worse. And here is Napoleon's post after going through the RR crazy filter. There's not really any point that I'm trying to make here, I just find it unusual how similar our posts can be to stuff on RR. You're kind of "special" aren't you? You do realize that Reagan actually did put a lot of mentally ill people on the street, right? You do realize that does a great deal of harm, right? Also, you're being fallacious.
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Post by gyeonghwa on Feb 10, 2011 14:52:34 GMT -5
Shadoom,
the difference is that Reagan really did those things he stand accused off. RR is accusing Obama for something he hasn't done (death panels and such).
And surely I bitch about Obama all the time, but the difference I bitch about things he has actually done (Or in Obama's case, the things he hasn't done.)
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Feb 10, 2011 14:54:22 GMT -5
When one man's truth sounds like another man's lie... it doesn't make the truth any less truthier.
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Post by shadoom on Feb 10, 2011 18:04:01 GMT -5
And here is Napoleon's post after going through the RR crazy filter. There's not really any point that I'm trying to make here, I just find it unusual how similar our posts can be to stuff on RR. You're kind of "special" aren't you? You do realize that Reagan actually did put a lot of mentally ill people on the street, right? You do realize that does a great deal of harm, right? Also, you're being fallacious.Did I ever say that I supported Regen? Did I ever say that the similarity in comments between here and RR validated their ideas about Obama? No, I simply pointed out a superficial similarity in the methods of insulting politicians. As I said in my earlier posts, I neither support Regan nor am I trying to make a pro-Regan argument out of the similarities. All I am doing is demonstrating that such similarities exist.
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Post by ltfred on Feb 10, 2011 19:30:09 GMT -5
This is true. There is a system of grammer attached to the English language. Therefore, sentences are constructed in ways that are broadly similar. Funny, but it is more then sentence structure. It is the hate and vitriol. Some things deserve hatred. I'd argue that executive criminal activity is one of them- particularly when that criminal activity is mass murder. As for vitriol- which is "bitterly abusive language; invective or vituperation"- I disagree that that is what Napoleon did. What makes RR and Freakconservatives so bad isn't their language, or their emotional response to events. It's their dishonesty and their bullshit ideology that's at fault, not the words used or the grammer employed. Those 'ideals' included mass-murder, dishonesty, and crime. Theoretically, he may have honestly believed that he was bettering the country by subverting it's laws to arm drug dealers in South America so they could import cocaine to LA for his political gain, but I doubt it. I mean, where does it stop? At what point does an act become so bad that you can no longer assume good intentions by it? So mass murder isn't bad enough. Torture, like Bush? Maybe, genocide, like Jackson?
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Feb 10, 2011 20:36:03 GMT -5
This is true. There is a system of grammer attached to the English language. Therefore, sentences are constructed in ways that are broadly similar. Funny, but it is more then sentence structure. It is the hate and vitriol. Reagan followed a set of ideals down a path he beliefs would lead to the betterment of the country. We can see how those ideals caused massive problems many which are still present. Reagan suffered from a failure in his logic and being out of touch with a lot of the population. He was not some heartless Monster. And plenty of brutal dictators did the same fucking thing. Ronald Reagan was either dumber than Sarah Palin or a heartless motherfucker. It's not a failure of logic. It's doing things that a fucking five year old can figure out are bad ideas.
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Post by mechtaur on Feb 10, 2011 21:11:03 GMT -5
Godwin Alert.
Hitler honestly thought he was bettering the world by killing off other races, does that mean that he wasn't a heartless monster?
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Feb 10, 2011 21:40:02 GMT -5
Some Godwins need to be, err, Godwin'd
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