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Post by Iosa the Invincible on Jul 28, 2011 12:24:59 GMT -5
That's why I want to scream when someone says capitalism promotes hard work. You know what it also promotes?
Outstanding greed and selfishness.
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 28, 2011 12:58:29 GMT -5
That's why I want to scream when someone says capitalism promotes hard work. You know what it also promotes? Outstanding greed and selfishness. In fact, it seems to promote that at the expense of hard work. Why provide a solid service when you can make more money by not providing said service? Back to Comcast, they've been consistently near the bottom of "services" when people are polled. One Yahoo article covered a poll where they were behind only the IRS in terms of being the worst customer satisfaction in the US. I'm pretty sure they're not so hated because they've put hard work into being the best. There was an old SNL (I think) skit with the tagline "We don't care. We don't have to. We're the PHONE COMPANY." I think one of the big problems here is that the competition isn't external. You can have five cable companies providing internet, but all will be trying to increase profits and lower cost. They don't seem to care about customer satisfaction. Similarly, insurance isn't competing for your money. In fact, by the time you have a problem, they've probably collected a ton of money off you. Trying to kick you off health insurance is cheaper. So's not paying and hoping you go away. I suspect this is why customer service lines are getting worse and worse, too. It's cheaper to put you on hold and hope you'll go away. I'm missing the "hard work" part of all this, but then, I'm pretty sure so are the people claiming it.
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Post by sylvana on Jul 29, 2011 1:23:03 GMT -5
That's why I want to scream when someone says capitalism promotes hard work. You know what it also promotes? Outstanding greed and selfishness. Capitalism is one of the worst systems ever created. I have no idea why all the republicans love it. Thankfully capitalism is at least partially regulated because if it was not, we would all be slaves (more so than we are now). In South Africa we have a very special situation. We have only 1 telecommunications provider. So no matter what if you are using a land line, you are paying them. They have an absolute monopoly and they dont fix anything, I eventually canceled my service with them and only use a cellular service because my line degraded to the point where nothing worked and they wouldn't come out to fix it.
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Keiro
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Post by Keiro on Jul 29, 2011 8:48:19 GMT -5
This is why I use Comcast Business.
No caps. Techs're actually knowledgeable, and I get to scream at them for not complying with the SLA.
I cannot be on anything but Business connections, sadly.
I can be on Residential, but eh, I'd rather not be capped and interfered with while I do my job on their connection.
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Post by Smurfette Principle on Jul 29, 2011 11:20:44 GMT -5
We don't even have cable or satellite or any sort of television service at all. We have the internet (I think we're on Fairpoint) and Apple TV, which lets us get a Netflix Instant Queue and Youtube direct to our TV.
Fairpoint is better!
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 29, 2011 15:05:55 GMT -5
We don't even have cable or satellite or any sort of television service at all. We have the internet (I think we're on Fairpoint) and Apple TV, which lets us get a Netflix Instant Queue and Youtube direct to our TV. Fairpoint is better! Fairpoint handled my phone service for the last six months I had a landline. I'm SO glad to be rid of them.
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Post by POSW on Aug 1, 2011 3:15:09 GMT -5
The insurance industry in the USA is damn near a criminal enterprise, and if it wasn't for their billions-a-year lobby spending, would probably be classified as organized extortion. The problem is the capitalist business model. When you combine it with the insurance business plan, you have created a business which is most profitable when it refuses to provide the service it was contracted to provide.THIS. I have to wonder, how does a right-winger go about attempting to argue against that point? Because I can't think of any good replies to it. Do they use that old "oh, but our market isn't really free, so we need to deregulate more" bullshit?
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Post by gotpwnt on Aug 4, 2011 21:44:16 GMT -5
The insurance industry in the USA is damn near a criminal enterprise, and if it wasn't for their billions-a-year lobby spending, would probably be classified as organized extortion. The problem is the capitalist business model. When you combine it with the insurance business plan, you have created a business which is most profitable when it refuses to provide the service it was contracted to provide.THIS. I have to wonder, how does a right-winger go about attempting to argue against that point? Because I can't think of any good replies to it. Do they use that old "oh, but our market isn't really free, so we need to deregulate more" bullshit? Actually, the conservative response is something akin to "Insurance Companies are a business, that means they exist to make a profit and if that means fucking people over, so be it."
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Post by Amaranth on Aug 5, 2011 7:30:36 GMT -5
Actually, the conservative response is something akin to "Insurance Companies are a business, that means they exist to make a profit and if that means fucking people over, so be it." And it doesn't matter that the same right-winger was probably preaching the free market a minute ago
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Post by gotpwnt on Aug 5, 2011 18:27:08 GMT -5
Actually, the conservative response is something akin to "Insurance Companies are a business, that means they exist to make a profit and if that means fucking people over, so be it." And it doesn't matter that the same right-winger was probably preaching the free market a minute ago Right wing ideology is pretty Orwellian in nature... which is interesting.
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