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Post by Yla on Aug 16, 2011 3:43:13 GMT -5
Let's just say he had always been valuable. And that the plots to assassinate him were the wrong idea. Only if you're speaking from an Allied perspective. And even then, I doubt that.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Aug 16, 2011 4:19:43 GMT -5
Let's just say he had always been valuable. And that the plots to assassinate him were the wrong idea. Only if you're speaking from an Allied perspective. And even then, I doubt that. Knowing what I know about Hitler, nazis, and world war 2? I wouldn't doubt it.
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Post by Yla on Aug 16, 2011 4:32:07 GMT -5
Yes, he was the biggest hindrance to the German warmachine. That doesn't change the fact that he was the one who got it rolling, who was the driving force behind the holocaust together with Himmler. Putting him out the picture(assuming he would have been killed before let's say, 1941) wouldn't have resulted in rainbows and bunnies for everyone, but the war could have been cut a lot shorter, the holocaust might not have happened in that measure. The Walküre plot, for example, was prepared to take over the government immediately, depose the Nazis, and seek a truce with the western Allies. Now where exactly do you think this is a wrong idea?
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Post by Smurfette Principle on Aug 16, 2011 14:59:13 GMT -5
This is more hilarious than the plot to make Fidel Castro bald.
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Post by DrKilljoy on Aug 16, 2011 16:55:27 GMT -5
If you could actually get something into Hitler's food, why not go the whole nine yards and lace it with cyanide? A dead Hitler would be better than Hitler with tits. Thanks, I needed a new sig!
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Post by Shane for Wax on Aug 16, 2011 19:57:04 GMT -5
Yes, he was the biggest hindrance to the German warmachine. That doesn't change the fact that he was the one who got it rolling, who was the driving force behind the holocaust together with Himmler. Putting him out the picture(assuming he would have been killed before let's say, 1941) wouldn't have resulted in rainbows and bunnies for everyone, but the war could have been cut a lot shorter, the holocaust might not have happened in that measure. The Walküre plot, for example, was prepared to take over the government immediately, depose the Nazis, and seek a truce with the western Allies. Now where exactly do you think this is a wrong idea? Maybe because it seems so simple but in practice would not be as such? I firmly believe even if Hitler was killed someone would have taken his place. Maybe someone even worse. Like Goebbels. Or Himmler himself.
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Post by largeham on Aug 16, 2011 21:14:22 GMT -5
The July 20 plot has somehow been whitewashed by the media. Most of the officers involved were anti-Semites and rabid anti-Communists/Bolsheviks, their coup might have failed as most SS troops would still have been armed (only the troops in France were disarmed) and almost the entire SS and much of the younger officers in the army were fervent Nazis. Also, Himmler, Goebbels and Goering would have survived.
Apart from the fact that I doubt the Western powers would have accepted a ceasefire, this would still mean the war in the East would continue. If the bomb had killed everyone in the room, it would have removed the three people who were the best hindrances to German victory: Hitler, Keitel and Jodl.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Aug 16, 2011 22:06:52 GMT -5
The July 20 plot has somehow been whitewashed by the media. Most of the officers involved were anti-Semites and rabid anti-Communists/Bolsheviks, their coup might have failed as most SS troops would still have been armed (only the troops in France were disarmed) and almost the entire SS and much of the younger officers in the army were fervent Nazis. Also, Himmler, Goebbels and Goering would have survived. Apart from the fact that I doubt the Western powers would have accepted a ceasefire, this would still mean the war in the East would continue. If the bomb had killed everyone in the room, it would have removed the three people who were the best hindrances to German victory: Hitler, Keitel and Jodl. Thank you.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Aug 17, 2011 2:14:53 GMT -5
New, from Volkskäse! Hitlerkäse! The Third Reich of FLAVOR! Ewww! Just, ewwwww!!
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Post by Amaranth on Aug 17, 2011 7:36:40 GMT -5
New, from Volkskäse! Hitlerkäse! The Third Reich of FLAVOR! Ewww! Just, ewwwww!! You WILL serve the Master Taste.
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