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Post by Art Vandelay on Aug 19, 2011 1:16:20 GMT -5
I don't quite understand this timetable. They were on the phone for an hour. The mother alerted the authorities, who showed up half an hour later. Unless they just stood there and watched, it would be implied that she was already dead by the time they got there. At first the mother didn't believe her.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 19, 2011 1:36:26 GMT -5
I assumed "at first" meant 5-10 minutes, tops.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Aug 19, 2011 1:41:40 GMT -5
Apparently not (unless you're right about the Authorities standing there watching for half an hour or so).
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Aug 19, 2011 1:41:47 GMT -5
I can't even imagine how horrifying it would be to listen to someone you love being eaten alive, knowing there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. I don't think it would be quite as bad as being the poor sod who's actually being eaten alive. Still fucking horrifying, but things could certainly be worse. On one hand, you have a point. On the other hand, guess who gets to live with it?
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Post by Dan on Aug 19, 2011 2:25:50 GMT -5
The article says no fewer than three times that this comes from the Daily Mail.
I wouldn't trust it.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Aug 19, 2011 2:46:04 GMT -5
I don't think it would be quite as bad as being the poor sod who's actually being eaten alive. Still fucking horrifying, but things could certainly be worse. On one hand, you have a point. On the other hand, guess who gets to live with it? "Live" being the key word here.
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Post by chad sexington on Aug 19, 2011 3:07:12 GMT -5
The article says no fewer than three times that this comes from the Daily Mail. I wouldn't trust it. Yeah, I wasn't sure about that either. But I guess we'll find out in a week or two how genuine it is
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 19, 2011 3:23:23 GMT -5
Is the Daily Mail some kind of tabloid? Because that's the impression I got the last time I checked.
Honestly, it's up-in-the-air whether or not it's better to live with that shit.
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Post by tygerarmy on Aug 19, 2011 21:49:34 GMT -5
Timothy Treadwell is an idiotThe authorities showed up 30 minutes after the mother called them. So she called them at least a half hour after the initial bear attack. Why didn't the daughter call the authorities?
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Post by Shane for Wax on Aug 19, 2011 22:07:33 GMT -5
Timothy Treadwell is an idiotThe authorities showed up 30 minutes after the mother called them. So she called them at least a half hour after the initial bear attack. Why didn't the daughter call the authorities? Sometimes you don't think about it. You think about your loved ones first.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Aug 22, 2011 2:08:09 GMT -5
On one hand, you have a point. On the other hand, guess who gets to live with it? "Live" being the key word here. Ever experience an event that haunts you for the rest of your life? I haven't, but I've heard they are pretty traumatic and greatly decrease the quality of life.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Aug 22, 2011 3:41:34 GMT -5
"Live" being the key word here. Ever experience an event that haunts you for the rest of your life? I haven't, but I've heard they are pretty traumatic and greatly decrease the quality of life. I hear being eaten alive by bears can also be somewhat traumatic and rather detrimental to one's quality of life.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Aug 22, 2011 4:47:15 GMT -5
Ever experience an event that haunts you for the rest of your life? I haven't, but I've heard they are pretty traumatic and greatly decrease the quality of life. I hear being eaten alive by bears can also be somewhat traumatic and rather detrimental to one's quality of life. I guess I'm going to have to address the point directly, since you seem to keep missing it. Length of suffering. One person suffered for a short while and is now at peace. The other person has to have that suffering for the rest of their life, which is a considerably longer amount of time unless that life is ended prematurely, too.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Aug 22, 2011 5:02:34 GMT -5
I hear being eaten alive by bears can also be somewhat traumatic and rather detrimental to one's quality of life. I guess I'm going to have to address the point directly, since you seem to keep missing it. Length of suffering. One person suffered for a short while and is now at peace. The other person has to have that suffering for the rest of their life, which is a considerably longer amount of time unless that life is ended prematurely, too. I'm aware of that. However the idea that it's worse than being eaten alive by a bear is quite frankly ridiculous.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Aug 22, 2011 5:16:58 GMT -5
I guess I'm going to have to address the point directly, since you seem to keep missing it. Length of suffering. One person suffered for a short while and is now at peace. The other person has to have that suffering for the rest of their life, which is a considerably longer amount of time unless that life is ended prematurely, too. I'm aware of that. However the idea that it's worse than being eaten alive by a bear is quite frankly ridiculous. Still assuming that the story is true... I'd ask the girl how she feels, but if the story is true, she's dead now. She's no longer feeling pain now. Of course, she's not feeling anything now, so that's rather moot. At the time, yes, the girl was feeling the worse suffering, since I'm pretty sure being eaten alive is a very painful experience regardless. 20 years down the road, however, that mother would probably still be blaming herself for her daughter's death, never letting herself live it down, psychologically abusing herself. One is acute suffering, the other is not. Never underestimate the effects of psychological suffering.
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