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Post by Vene on Sept 23, 2011 16:48:32 GMT -5
Oh Vene, you are just a European Communist. Nope, still American.
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Post by erictheblue on Sept 23, 2011 16:53:02 GMT -5
I did not write this, but it sums up very well my thoughts on this case... Reasonable DoubtSome quotes..
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Post by carole on Sept 23, 2011 17:21:21 GMT -5
Someone post that Reba song about the lights going out in Georgia Ironbite-cause that's what this is. Okay, here it is. BTW, I am in Georgia so please don't lump us all together. But I have to admit I don't know enough about this case to really comment on it. But here is the song. . .
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Post by brandonl337 on Sept 23, 2011 17:26:43 GMT -5
That post does not address the issue that executing a man based solely on eyewitness testimony and shoddy physical evidence is massively immoral, nevermind that the death penalty itself is immoral.
It also fails to address that a very likely reason the case wasn't overturned or the death sentence stayed is because it was a cop that was murdered and it would be politically embarrassing for them to stay his execution(or especially if he had managed to get a retrial), especially since the family of the victim was actively calling for his execution to go through.
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queenofhearts
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Another atheist transgirl with too many opinions and not enough money
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Post by queenofhearts on Sept 23, 2011 17:46:53 GMT -5
Won't do any good, the governor specifically denied the stay, nevermind that he stayed the execution of a man who admitted to the murder and had compelling evidence of the murder, but that man was white so of course we can't kill him. /sarcasm (I fucking loathe this state.) Not to mention his victim was white. And law enforcement. I honestly doubt Troy would've gotten the death penalty if he was convicted of robbing, raping, and then cannibalizing a black homeless man.
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Post by erictheblue on Sept 23, 2011 17:53:50 GMT -5
That post does not address the issue that executing a man based solely on eyewitness testimony and shoddy physical evidence is massively immoral, It doesn't?
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Post by brandonl337 on Sept 23, 2011 18:03:14 GMT -5
guess i missed that. though it seems more like it's dismissing that argument, also I don't agree that we should wait for an innocent man to be executed before trying to change the law, better to save him and then make sure that the kind of last minute intervention is never needed again. preferably by outlawing the death penalty.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 23, 2011 18:11:55 GMT -5
Funny how conviction by a jury of peers doesn't mean he was actually guilty.
Like, remember when Michael Jackson got a "Not Guilty" verdict despite the overwhelming evidence against him? Yeah.
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Post by brendanrizzo on Sept 23, 2011 18:13:25 GMT -5
Okay, I have just one question here. If there really was all this evidence that Davis did it, then how come literally the only people saying that he did are here in the United States. Pretty much everyone outside the country is acting as if it were obvious that he was innocent and he was only killed because Americans are evil reactionaries or something. (Note that I have not made any statements on whether I think Davis was guilty or innocent, so please do not put words in my mouth on the subject.) Remember how Headache was convinced that "Americans" (yes, all of them, even those who live nowhere near Georgia) executed an innocent man? Between that and the fact that practically every country in the world, even authoritarian dictatorships like China, protested this action, has made me notice that injustices and perceived injustices are only ever protested when it's America that does them. (The Free Tibet movement notwithstanding.) It seems a little hypocritical that actual atrocities go unreported but whenever the US messes up even slightly, it's all "let's loudly complain to prove we're morally superior to dem Yankees!"
Although, I will say that regardless of whether Davis was guilty or not, the southern states' attitude to capital punishment is severely broken. A white man can literally admit to killing a police officer in cold blood and they'll walk free, but a black person gets executed on much less evidence, and any evidence that he didn't do it is actively prevented from being used, by government mandate. Yeah, I think that Texas and Georgia are equally disgusting.
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Post by MaybeNever on Sept 23, 2011 18:23:58 GMT -5
Oh Vene, you are just a European Communist. Nope, still American. Nope! Americans love killin' criminals. And a criminal is anybody we say is one. Ergo, you are a European, which means communist.
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Post by Vene on Sept 23, 2011 18:41:22 GMT -5
Nope! Americans love killin' criminals. And a criminal is anybody we say is one. Ergo, you are a European, which means communist. You're thinking of Amurricans
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 23, 2011 18:55:53 GMT -5
Nope! Americans love killin' criminals. And a criminal is anybody we say is one. Ergo, you are a European, which means communist. You're thinking of Amurricans Furries?
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Post by scotsgit on Sept 23, 2011 19:00:54 GMT -5
Okay, I have just one question here. If there really was all this evidence that Davis did it, then how come literally the only people saying that he did are here in the United States. Pretty much everyone outside the country is acting as if it were obvious that he was innocent and he was only killed because Americans are evil reactionaries or something. (Note that I have not made any statements on whether I think Davis was guilty or innocent, so please do not put words in my mouth on the subject.) Remember how Headache was convinced that "Americans" (yes, all of them, even those who live nowhere near Georgia) executed an innocent man? Between that and the fact that practically every country in the world, even authoritarian dictatorships like China, protested this action, has made me notice that injustices and perceived injustices are only ever protested when it's America that does them. (The Free Tibet movement notwithstanding.) It seems a little hypocritical that actual atrocities go unreported but whenever the US messes up even slightly, it's all "let's loudly complain to prove we're morally superior to dem Yankees!" I've read this thread twice and can't see anyone displaying that attitude: Care to point out which posts I missed?
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Post by brandonl337 on Sept 23, 2011 19:13:38 GMT -5
I don't think he's referring to this thread itself, rather general international outrage at this miscarraige of justice, and Brendan, to be fair while China may be speaking out against this as well, many if not most of the countries that are outraged at this have outlawed the death penalty, and have had it outlawed for a long time.
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Post by nightangel1282 on Sept 23, 2011 19:15:14 GMT -5
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