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Post by Admiral Lithp on Jul 11, 2009 8:46:42 GMT -5
That one is specifically intended for you.
So it would be okay for God to go all Kefka & start slowly killing everyone on the planet just because he's bored?
Problem: This means that God can ignore sin. So, if the difference is "nothing" (your words, not mine), then why would believing in Jesus even be necessary?
Furthermore, if Christians are "saved" from their sins, then do they not essentially get a guilt-free pass? Sure, they can TRY not to sin, but the fact is that they will, and they won't get any punishment for it. If that's the case, then wouldn't that make God unjust?
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Post by secularskeptic on Jul 12, 2009 11:01:13 GMT -5
Why is hell not mentioned in the Old Testament? It is mentioned. Just not in the NIV version from what i hear. Are all these questions for me? ;D Or just to any RR member that might show up? Because I don't know the answers to a lot of these questions. Not proper ones anyway. It is my understanding that in the OT there is no hell, it is sheol, which means grave. Are you saying the NIV is wrong?
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Post by John E on Jul 14, 2009 23:30:24 GMT -5
I hope we didn't scare 1sunchild off. I was looking forward to talk to him/her some more.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Jul 15, 2009 0:25:05 GMT -5
I hope we didn't scare 1sunchild off. I was looking forward to talk to him/her some more. Honestly, my call for civility aside, I wasn't really expecting this to be different from any of the other "visits" we get, only maybe with less, "Wow, they're douchebags!" And now that I've said that, she'll show up again any minute now. Just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
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Post by 1sunchild on Jul 16, 2009 4:18:33 GMT -5
I hope we didn't scare 1sunchild off. I was looking forward to talk to him/her some more. Hey, you didn't scare me off. I've just been real busy lately. Lots on my mind.. I wish i had the answer to all these questions, but i don't. I'm also confused about so many things, just like you guys. As for me, i try not to question too many things God-related. I think thats what screws me up at times. There are also so many things I have questions to, without any solid answers. I'm not trying to ignore anyone's questions, but i don't want to steer you wrong either, in case my answer isn't correct.
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Post by Armand Tanzarian on Jul 16, 2009 4:33:40 GMT -5
I wish i had the answer to all these questions, but i don't. I'm also confused about so many things, just like you guys. As for me, i try not to question too many things God-related. I think thats what screws me up at times. There are also so many things I have questions to, without any solid answers. I'm not trying to ignore anyone's questions, but i don't want to steer you wrong either, in case my answer isn't correct. That has to be the most refreshing answer I've heard coming from a Christian about these issues in a long while. Fundies have a horrible, horrible track record when it comes to Eph 2:9. In any case, what do Christian achieve by converting nonbelievers? Is there punishment if they don't actively try to "save" people? In Islam, converting a nonbeliever means automatic ascension to heaven after death (or so I heard), so is it similar for evangelicals?
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Post by Oriet on Jul 16, 2009 8:03:54 GMT -5
I'll admit, my religious questions are as often to get the other person to think about the answers as they are to get an answer I don't know. This isn't to say I ignore the answers at all, as I do pay attention and re-examine things, but I also know there's a lot of aspects many religious folk avoid, and if they avoid finding an answer for themselves, how are they supposed to answer someone esle?
Oh, and thank you for making sure to not spout off an answer you're not sure about. So many people spit out rote answers without a glimmer of a thought put into it it's a wonder they can remember to breath, so like Armand said it's quite refreshing to see someone taking care with their answers.
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Post by secularskeptic on Jul 16, 2009 9:04:33 GMT -5
I hope we didn't scare 1sunchild off. I was looking forward to talk to him/her some more. Hey, you didn't scare me off. I've just been real busy lately. Lots on my mind.. I wish i had the answer to all these questions, but i don't. I'm also confused about so many things, just like you guys. As for me, i try not to question too many things God-related. I think thats what screws me up at times. There are also so many things I have questions to, without any solid answers. I'm not trying to ignore anyone's questions, but i don't want to steer you wrong either, in case my answer isn't correct. That is a really good answer, thanks for being honest. I'll take "I don't know" any day over "I absolutely know and if you disagree with me you are absolutely wrong". If you decide to answer any of the ones I asked, though, don't be worried about steering me wrong. I steer myself and think for myself. I'm just more curious about the thought process.
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Post by John E on Jul 16, 2009 13:27:34 GMT -5
I hope we didn't scare 1sunchild off. I was looking forward to talk to him/her some more. Hey, you didn't scare me off. I've just been real busy lately. Lots on my mind.. I wish i had the answer to all these questions, but i don't. I'm also confused about so many things, just like you guys. As for me, i try not to question too many things God-related. I think thats what screws me up at times. There are also so many things I have questions to, without any solid answers. I'm not trying to ignore anyone's questions, but i don't want to steer you wrong either, in case my answer isn't correct. Like the others have said, thank you for being honest. Frankly, I have more respect for people who are willing to admit when they don't know something than those who think they know everything. If there are any questions you have for us, I for one would be happy to try to answer them, and I'm sure a lot of others here would too.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Jul 16, 2009 16:47:24 GMT -5
Holy shit. I can see the future.
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Post by A. Sapien on Jul 18, 2009 0:29:19 GMT -5
I haz a question.
How do we know we can trust God? Now, let me preface, I don't accept because the Bible says so, or because he says so as an answer - because, if we can't trust him, which is the question, then his word's validity and honesty is put in question by default.
Thank you.
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Post by spaniel on Jul 18, 2009 3:05:19 GMT -5
QUESTION!!!!! Is God a sock?
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Jul 18, 2009 5:03:29 GMT -5
QUESTION!!!!! Is God a sock? The Hell kind of question is that?
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Post by spaniel on Jul 18, 2009 11:56:41 GMT -5
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Jul 18, 2009 15:15:10 GMT -5
Oh. I see now.
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