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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 15, 2011 18:39:10 GMT -5
I think you may be reading too much into that. I can't say, because I don't have early posts from the author archived, but I think that was just a combination of Rule of Funny & also Haley was established early on to be the person closest to V out of the party.
Miko was the Paladin chick. I don't know if she was considered evil, Shojo implied that she'd still end up in one of the good afterlives. Also, from my (limited) knowledge of DnD systems, humans aren't an always-alignment-a type of creature. That's why the whole thing confuses me.
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Post by Vene on Oct 15, 2011 21:44:06 GMT -5
Here's what will really confuse you, those always-alignment creatures aren't always that alignment.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 15, 2011 22:14:37 GMT -5
How the Hell does that work?
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Post by Vene on Oct 15, 2011 22:21:59 GMT -5
Dungeon masters do what they want.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 15, 2011 22:24:45 GMT -5
But, other than that, they would always be that alignment?
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Post by Vene on Oct 15, 2011 23:28:26 GMT -5
Considering that dungeon masters control the alignment of everything, sure, why not?
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 15, 2011 23:33:23 GMT -5
No, what I'm saying is, if the DM strictly followed alignment rules, THEN would they be always-that-alignment?
I'm asking for clarification purposes.
On-topic, am I the only one thinking Tarquin is going to suffer a Humiliation Conga at some point?
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Post by Vene on Oct 15, 2011 23:46:10 GMT -5
No, what I'm saying is, if the DM strictly followed alignment rules, THEN would they be always-that-alignment? Depends on what you mean by strictly. It's in the rules that the DM is encouraged to violate it. When Elan gets his happy ending.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 16, 2011 2:10:06 GMT -5
Eh, forget it, s'not important.
It just seems to me that he set himself up for that. Okay, so you win if you die, but what happens when you're thrown in jail for the rest of your life?
Or Xykon could get to him.
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Post by SCarpelan on Oct 16, 2011 16:54:32 GMT -5
Also, the reason he trusted Elan is because, by this point, Elan has proven to be trustworthy so long as Genre Savvyness is involved. True, I forgot that V had the option of contacting his old teacher. But assuming he had to handle the situation himself, then he really had no other option. Yes, Elan does have an exceptional understanding of genre conventions and will usually leap into correct conclusions as long as he has understood the underlying situation correctly. He is gullible and not too bright which means that he might not have arrived to his conclusions from correct premises. It would have taken only a minute for V to ask Elan to explain the situation which would have given a chance to evaluate the validity of his conclusions. V was too impatient to do that and just skipped to zapping Kubota. The issue here is if V was acting wisely or not and to me it doesn't look like (s)he did. [edit] Forgot to add that the reason I brought up this situation instead of the familicide spell is that I see V's actions here as the first real sign about how distorted his/her priorities were becoming. The way V dealt with the black dragon was in my opinion much more clearly unhinged and evil and thus less interesting to discuss IMO. [/edit] If I recall right Burlew originally meant V's gender to be apparent but when the fandom started arguing about V's gender he saw the comedic potential and made the question part of the comic's canon.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 16, 2011 18:39:44 GMT -5
It would be sort of unusual for Elan to tie up a guy based on an assumption. He'd have to subdue the man and Elan isn't the best of fighters. Also, as you said, he's not too bright. If the situation were ambiguous, it would be easy for the villain to convince him that there's a perfectly logical explanation. That's what Tarquin had been doing for most of his stay, is it not?
The only way to be sure would be to ask Burlew himself, & I don't have an account there.
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Post by Vene on Oct 16, 2011 19:08:19 GMT -5
Elan's not a very good fighter if his opponent is of an appropriate CR, which is not going to be the case for a random prisoner. Also, he had a prestige class at that point and had shown himself to actually be competent.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 16, 2011 19:29:08 GMT -5
I don't know what CR is.
The Dashing Swordsman class seems to have been getting less & less useful. I blame the Worf Effect.
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Post by Vene on Oct 16, 2011 19:39:25 GMT -5
Challenge Rating, it's a quick guide for determining if an encounter is appropriate for a party of some level and size. OoTS is far more enjoyable if you know D&D terminology.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 16, 2011 19:48:51 GMT -5
I often look those kinds of things up, but ultimately, I have to accept that some of the jokes will go over my head.
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