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Post by Yla on Oct 25, 2011 6:29:53 GMT -5
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Post by N. De Plume on Oct 25, 2011 8:50:52 GMT -5
The worst thing about this was when he said "I could care less". So he does care just a little bit! ;D
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Post by Cygnus on Oct 25, 2011 11:08:42 GMT -5
I always wondered why God waited until Adam was lonely to make Eve. Surely an all knowing God would have known Adam was going to be lonely, and could have made Eve at the same time? Seriously, it's like God sometimes just forgets that he's omniscient. Which shouldn't even be possible if he is......
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Post by anti-nonsense on Oct 25, 2011 14:40:02 GMT -5
this entire thread explains why I don't like Christianity.
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Post by Old Viking on Oct 25, 2011 15:58:40 GMT -5
His sending babies to hell is just one more reason to love God. Parasites are also a good reason. So are plagues.
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Post by Thejebusfire on Oct 25, 2011 16:53:20 GMT -5
And how in the fuckity fuck did Adam concive a baby?
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 25, 2011 17:45:31 GMT -5
I always wondered why God waited until Adam was lonely to make Eve. Surely an all knowing God would have known Adam was going to be lonely, and could have made Eve at the same time? Seriously, it's like God sometimes just forgets that he's omniscient. Which shouldn't even be possible if he is...... ITS TOTAL TRUE CUZ GOD IS ALL POWER N ABOV UR LOJICK! Also: Hell: It's not just for adults anymore!
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Oct 25, 2011 17:57:36 GMT -5
My lack of Google account prevented me from posting this:
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Post by The_L on Oct 25, 2011 19:11:07 GMT -5
He does have a point about the original sin and all. This is why some sects baptize babies. Of course, he fails in thinking this will somehow convince people to worship such a deity. And they worry about "killing" babies in abortions. The problem with original sin, apart from the repugnance in forcing people to suffer for their ancestors' misdeeds, is that the Adam and Eve story blatantly states that they lacked any understanding of good & evil, therefore releasing them of any culpability for their "crime". Even if they could justify the "sins of the father" doctrine, their god would still be a complete monster. And that's not even getting into the issue of the biblical god's stated ability to predict the future, meaning he would have known that all of this was going to happen when he first created humanity, or the absurdity in creating the tree of knowledge & a manipulative talking snake. By their own theology, it's the fundie blood god that deserves to rot in hell, not humanity. I'd always assumed that the Adam and Eve story was an allegory: When we developed the ability to reason, we were able to notice the harsher aspects of life, and it no longer seemed idyllic.
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Post by Cygnus on Oct 25, 2011 20:31:57 GMT -5
The problem with original sin, apart from the repugnance in forcing people to suffer for their ancestors' misdeeds, is that the Adam and Eve story blatantly states that they lacked any understanding of good & evil, therefore releasing them of any culpability for their "crime". Even if they could justify the "sins of the father" doctrine, their god would still be a complete monster. And that's not even getting into the issue of the biblical god's stated ability to predict the future, meaning he would have known that all of this was going to happen when he first created humanity, or the absurdity in creating the tree of knowledge & a manipulative talking snake. By their own theology, it's the fundie blood god that deserves to rot in hell, not humanity. I'd always assumed that the Adam and Eve story was an allegory: When we developed the ability to reason, we were able to notice the harsher aspects of life, and it no longer seemed idyllic. Didn't Jesus supposedly die so we could be forgiven for the original sin (Eve eating the fruit)? I'm not sure if that's explicity stated in the Bible, but I've seen quite a few Christians insist that this is the case. They say that without the events of Adam and Eve, Jesus' sacrifice would make no sense. Not that it makes all that much sense in the first place....
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Post by gadfly on Oct 25, 2011 21:26:58 GMT -5
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Post by Paradox on Oct 25, 2011 22:17:55 GMT -5
I think it was C.S. Lewis who pointed out that if we are to say that God is good He must be good in the sense that we understand the term. To say that God is good because good is defined as things God approves of, and to further claim that God considers good things that we do not, would be to reduce the concept to absurdity. After all, if God thinks that things we view as bad are good, might not the inverse be true? Why would a worshiper of such a God desire to go to heaven when, for all they know, their monster-god's view of paradise might be something we would view as hell. If God really does approve of evil things then I can see why He might be feared, but not praised.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 26, 2011 2:46:09 GMT -5
'Twas god who gave mad dogs the rabies Then turned his attention to babies "I'll send them to hell And then might as well Afflict them with subdural scabies."
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Post by Haseen on Oct 26, 2011 5:15:41 GMT -5
There is only one way to deal with idiots like this:
Idiot: [Stupid shit] Me: God says you're an idiot. Idiot: No. [More stupid shit] Me: Who are you to argue with God?
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Post by QWcanary on Oct 26, 2011 9:32:10 GMT -5
I think it's funny that God's supposed perfect creation effed up bad on the very first generation. Some creator. Not to mention that begs the question of why a perfect being would need to create 'anything' as itself should have been sufficient. God implodes upon itself.
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