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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 30, 2011 3:00:53 GMT -5
The fact that this is legal is just... ugh. Wanna see some death panels, tea baggers? Go tour your private insurers' head offices. This. I'm about as conservative as you're likely to find this side of the Bürgerbräukeller, I am proud to say that Australia's public health system doesn't let people die of treatable illness without treatment. |
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Post by clockworkgirl21 on Oct 30, 2011 5:01:23 GMT -5
This makes me want to punch all anti-Obamacare people in the throat.
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 30, 2011 5:05:22 GMT -5
This makes me want to punch all anti-Obamacare people in the throat. Relly? It makes me want to give them a really unpleasant medical condition that they're insurance won't cover. |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Oct 30, 2011 13:12:49 GMT -5
This makes me want to punch all anti-Obamacare people in the throat. Relly? It makes me want to give them a really unpleasant medical condition that they're insurance won't cover. Unfortunately, the problem is that the people who legislate this stuff actually have free health insurance that covers absolutely everything. You'd have to give them something that's impossible to treat for it to work. |
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Post by dasfuchs on Oct 30, 2011 13:49:14 GMT -5
The fact that this is legal is just... ugh. Wanna see some death panels, tea baggers? Go tour your private insurers' head offices. This. I'm about as conservative as you're likely to find this side of the Bürgerbräukeller, I am proud to say that Australia's public health system doesn't let people die of treatable illness without treatment. I've found in the past that the term "conservative" in most countries outside the US means little or the exact opposite |
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Post by D Laurier on Oct 30, 2011 13:55:14 GMT -5
I think I'm going to cry.As Miran Istina puts it, she has been living on borrowed time since she was 14. Diagnosed with cancer, she was given just months to live after her health insurer refused to provide her with life-saving surgery.
Now 18, Istina, from the city of Sisters in Oregon, has spent the past three weeks living in a tent at the Occupy San Francisco protest and says she will stay there indefinitely, despite her illness.
She was inspired to take part in the protest by the refusal of her insurance company to pay for treatment for her chronic myelogenous leukaemia.
She said: "They denied me on the terms of a pre-existing condition. Seeing as I had only had that insurance for a few months, and I was in early stage two which meant I had to have had it for at least a year, they determined it was a pre-existing condition and denied me healthcare."
Treatment would require a bone marrow transplant and extensive radiation therapy and chemotherapy, at a cost of several hundreds of thousands of dollars. Coming from an ordinary middle-class background, her family has no way of paying for the surgery that would save her life.
Following her insurer's refusal, she spent three years travelling the US looking for a healthcare provider who would give her a chance at life.
Istina said: "I went all over the place, looking for someone to give a damn, really, someone to care enough to treat me. Because we were middle class, we couldn't afford to treat my disease. We'd be in debt for the rest of our family life."
After repeated refusals to offer her treatment, she said: "I decided I was going to spend the rest of my life doing whatever my heart wants." Miran is a brave girl. I wish there was something I could do. Here in Canada her bone marrow transplant would be covered by public healthcare. Can someone tell her to come to Canada? |
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Post by SimSim on Oct 30, 2011 14:08:12 GMT -5
Relly? It makes me want to give them a really unpleasant medical condition that they're insurance won't cover. Unfortunately, the problem is that the people who legislate this stuff actually have free health insurance that covers absolutely everything. You'd have to give them something that's impossible to treat for it to work. Employees of the government, including Congress do not have free health insurance. They have the choice of many insurance plans by many companies. The government pays for 2/3rds of the insurance, the remaining 1/3rd is paid by the employee. |
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Post by Hyperio on Oct 30, 2011 14:59:31 GMT -5
It's heartbreaking that the USA, the richest country in the world, has worse cancer treatment coverage than propably the least-well funded health system in the EU, Poland. It speaks volumes on the priorities of the elite.  |
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Post by Vene on Oct 30, 2011 15:07:08 GMT -5
Our treatment is great, our accessibility to treatment is terrible.
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Post by Hyperio on Oct 30, 2011 15:23:37 GMT -5
Our treatment is great, our accessibility to treatment is terrible. I understand - that's why I was talking about insurance coverage. The US has some of the best clinics in the world. It's the system of health insurance (or rather lack of a decent one) that causes problems. I have doctors in the family and they have hard time believing it's actually worse in the USA for the poor. (Poland has the right to health care written in the *constitution* - article 68.) |
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