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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 6, 2011 22:17:10 GMT -5
Since when can the police suspend or expel students, LHM? The whole damn point of the matter is that 3 days is nothing especially when it comes to waiting for the police to get involved in the whole thing. While waiting the bully is now back in school and the victim is hopefully pulled out of school by his mother for protection purposes. Um, they don't... I was refering to
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 6, 2011 22:18:22 GMT -5
I agree. But again, thats a police matter, not a school one, right? If things occur on school grounds, the school has to act as it is within their responsibility. They are effectively taking care of kids/teenagers during school hours. If it is serious, they bring the police into the matter. The fact that police get involved at some point does not absolve the responsibility from the school. They still have to ensure the safety and well-being of their students. Therefore, in the event of a serious assault on a student, they can and should bring charges against the offender, or at least get the police involved in order to resolve the matter in an appropriate fashion. Try to tap-dance around this, and I will just laugh at you. So, what charges can the school bring against the assailant?
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 6, 2011 22:55:44 GMT -5
Holy shit, tell me that was not a serious question.
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 6, 2011 22:57:49 GMT -5
Holy shit, tell me that was not a serious question. Yes.
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Post by Wykked Wytch on Nov 6, 2011 23:57:05 GMT -5
Holy shit, tell me that was not a serious question. Yes. I'm pretty sure beating the stuffing out of a kid in the hallway qualifies as assault. I don't know, I might be mixed up on this one. Also, does the fact that it was motivated by homophobia make it a hate crime?
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 7, 2011 1:54:59 GMT -5
What crime have we been talking about for like 5 pages?
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Post by ironbite on Nov 7, 2011 3:34:09 GMT -5
Holy shit, tell me that was not a serious question. Yes. Wow....you're like a retarded chimp aren't you?
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Post by Bluefinger on Nov 7, 2011 3:34:27 GMT -5
So, what charges can the school bring against the assailant? Considering the OP: A 15-year-old teenager was caught on video being severely beaten in his high school class room for being gay. The attack occurred at Union-Scioto High School in Chillicothe, Ohio, and was caught on camera as fellow class members watched one teen wait for the victim to enter the room, push him to the ground, and continually punch him in the face. The victim suffered broken teeth and a possible concussion.Pretty clear that this is a serious case of assault. Not even something that can be chalked off to a disagreement going sour and ending up in punches. Person A waited to ambush Person B, and proceeded to beat him up to incur major injuries.
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 7, 2011 3:45:44 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure beating the stuffing out of a kid in the hallway qualifies as assault. I don't know, I might be mixed up on this one. Also, does the fact that it was motivated by homophobia make it a hate crime? Assault occasioning bodily harm, even. But my point, is that it is the victim on who's behalf the police charge someone. The school can't have the bully charged with assault on the victim's behalf. Seriously, try it some time you become aware of an assault. You can't press charges unless you are the victim, or the victim's guardian. As for hate crime, I don't know enough to comment. Doesn't it vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction? So, what charges can the school bring against the assailant? Considering the OP: Pretty clear that this is a serious case of assault. Not even something that can be chalked off to a disagreement going sour and ending up in punches. Person A waited to ambush Person B, and proceeded to beat him up to incur major injuries. I fully agree its a case of assault, but what I asked was what charges can the school bring... since the school wasn't assaulted, the school can't bring assault charges. The kid who was beaten up most certainly can (and in my opinion, should), but thats not what I asked. I'm really surprised that so many people seem to thing third parties with no standing can have people charged with assault. UNless its another nasty case of "argh, LHM said something, we'd better disagree!", which is quite possible.
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 7, 2011 3:50:29 GMT -5
Wow....you're like a retarded chimp aren't you? For having a better understanding of the law that all the people demanding the school should charge the guy with assault? Sure thing
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Post by Bluefinger on Nov 7, 2011 3:59:37 GMT -5
I fully agree its a case of assault, but what I asked was what charges can the school bring... since the school wasn't assaulted, the school can't bring assault charges. The kid who was beaten up most certainly can (and in my opinion, should), but thats not what I asked. I'm really surprised that so many people seem to thing third parties with no standing can have people charged with assault. UNless its another nasty case of "argh, LHM said something, we'd better disagree!", which is quite possible. Oh my god... you nearly made me ruin my monitor with sprayed morning coffee. The school wasn't assaulted, lol that's just rich. What part of "The school is effectively responsible for the kids on its campus" don't you understand? The third party here does have a standing, since it has the responsibility over the kids involved, which is both protecting the victim and ensuring the offender gets due course. The event transpired within school grounds, and there's even evidence of it. There's no reason for the school to stay hands-off. I've had schools I've gone to bring in police after finding pupils/students with drugs on campus. And people have provided examples of third party involvement for certain cases. Why should it be different for cases of assault? Also, love the persecution complex.
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Post by Bluefinger on Nov 7, 2011 4:04:34 GMT -5
Oh, just a question to you LHM.
If young child A was assaulted by Person B, can the parents of Child A press for charges?
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 7, 2011 4:18:57 GMT -5
You have a better understanding of law than I do if we completely ignore the fact that I made you admit the law you had been basing your arguments on didn't even exist on the last page.
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Post by ironbite on Nov 7, 2011 4:39:17 GMT -5
Wow....you're like a retarded chimp aren't you? For having a better understanding of the law that all the people demanding the school should charge the guy with assault? Sure thing Cept...you don't. Ironbite-as has been clearly demonstrated here.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Nov 7, 2011 5:16:56 GMT -5
The only thing worse than an Internet Tough Guy.
And that's an Internet Smart Guy.
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