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Post by lexikon on Nov 26, 2011 18:47:39 GMT -5
These people believe that nothing evil is written in the bible and if you find anything evil in it, then your just not a "true christian." They see evil too, but can't rationalize it. So they either ignore it or go "Out of context!" and don't provide context.
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Post by dasfuchs on Nov 26, 2011 23:21:01 GMT -5
Same thing whenever I find one of those "Bash the Democrat president" by religious nuts. I bring up the Romans thing about leaders being appointed by God, render unto Caesar and so on. I just get shouted down as a troll.
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Post by brendanrizzo on Nov 27, 2011 12:40:28 GMT -5
...And yet they used those same verses to shout down any criticisms of Bush.
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Post by Random Guy on Nov 28, 2011 3:27:24 GMT -5
You're obviously quoting it out of context.
And by "out of context" I mean not adding "Unless it's someone we don't like." on the end.
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Post by Wykked Wytch on Nov 28, 2011 21:08:55 GMT -5
It also means "to govern." The Bible prohibits women from teaching and governing, which means prohibiting them from positions of public office. Because bitches be trippin'.
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Post by lexikon on Nov 28, 2011 21:41:48 GMT -5
It also means "to govern." The Bible prohibits women from teaching and governing, which means prohibiting them from positions of public office. Because bitches be trippin'. I don't think that's the right context. Paul states that women should have a voice in church, and would be contradicting himself. Unless you're going with the view that it was a forgery. The letter seems to be a response to Encratism and maybe other forms of gnostic heresy, some of which probably had some kind of "girl power" theme. So it is entirely possible that Paul was correcting a cult that had women dominate over men. Found this blog which goes into more detail. christianfeminism.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/the-mistranslation-of-1-timothy-211-12/
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Post by dasfuchs on Nov 29, 2011 2:54:25 GMT -5
On a related note, there was an RR thread promoting waterboarding. When I posted some verses about love thy neighbor, etc., I got called out for "quoting Scripture at people" and was banned. People don't care what the Bible actually says, just so long as they have an excuse for their prejudices. That's the funny part, if you came back talking about how the bible doesn't support torturing people, they'd all quote verses at you and not one would be banned. They're a hive mentallity there, step out of line and they dispose of you, often hypcritically
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Post by tolpuddlemartyr on Nov 29, 2011 2:57:54 GMT -5
The bible isn't for READING you God-damned book reading liberal!
It's for waving furiously in revival meetings, also it repels vampires and possession demons.
Don't you know anything?
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Post by Doctor Fishcake on Nov 29, 2011 3:44:02 GMT -5
It's rather interesting to me, how few people who believe in the Bible actually read it. That's not an accident, according to my devoutly (when it suits her) Catholic mother the priests would actively discourage her and the rest of her school class from reading the bible at all. They clearly knew what would happen if smart arse kids read it and started pointing out the contradictions (as kids are great at doing).
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Post by N. De Plume on Nov 29, 2011 10:01:34 GMT -5
You know, I'm sure that their biggest beef with this is that the guy is an atheist, meaning he was technically trolling. Had the person requesting the shirt been a Christian, they'd probably think he was extra devout for broadcasting one of the unpopular Bible verses on his clothing. How did she know he was an atheist and not a devout Christian? Was he wearing a shirt that said, “I’m a Total Atheist Troll!” or something?
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Post by rookie on Nov 29, 2011 10:24:53 GMT -5
On a related note, there was an RR thread promoting waterboarding. When I posted some verses about love thy neighbor, etc., I got called out for "quoting Scripture at people" and was banned. People don't care what the Bible actually says, just so long as they have an excuse for their prejudices. I read that. My first thought was something like "Huh. That was a well reasoned, and backed up, yet completely contradictory (to the group). Too bad this Kali won't be here long. Also, how in the hell did you slip the name of a Hindu god past the RR mods?" In any case, welcome.
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Nov 29, 2011 10:34:47 GMT -5
Kali Ma...KALI MAAAA...
I really don't have anything to say. It feels like everyone says the same thing over and over: "They're hypocrites!" Yes, yes they are. They always have been. Am I supposed to be startled by this? Amazed? Enraged?
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