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Post by tolpuddlemartyr on Nov 30, 2011 3:40:03 GMT -5
But Shane, anything that isn't teh Jesus must be teh Satan!
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 30, 2011 5:13:42 GMT -5
There is an unspoken exception to Godwin's Law: If the person who brings up the comparison to Hitler or Nazis is a Jew, then they are exempt from the rule and their comparison stands as valid. Because the Holocaust was bad and Jews died in it, m'kay? Ah, good ol' Jewish exceptionalism, almost as much fun as American exceptionalism.
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Post by Doctor Fishcake on Nov 30, 2011 5:45:04 GMT -5
"It was God's will." "The ways of God are foolish to man."
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Nov 30, 2011 8:16:36 GMT -5
I've always found this one to be particularly grating. It's a dismissive, vacuous statement which does absolutely nothing to alleviate suffering.
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Post by Star Cluster on Nov 30, 2011 12:34:04 GMT -5
In addition to the nauseating examples of christspeak already given, I would like to submit: "Jesus is the reason for the season." Uh, no. There were festivals and celebrations at this time of year long before the alleged existence of Jesus. Jesus was the reason for the hijacking of said celebrations. It just so happens my fundie brother sent me an email yesterday with the following youtube video. It's a terrible shitty song. I couldn't listen to but about a minute of it. But this just exemplifies how nutty they are. [youtube] www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWrrvQ_3-40&feature=colike[/youtube]
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 30, 2011 12:34:58 GMT -5
It's not really a religious phrase, but I love it when they say, "Think about it." Because, clearly, we've never heard these arguments before.
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Post by N. De Plume on Nov 30, 2011 13:24:15 GMT -5
It just so happens my fundie brother sent me an email yesterday with the following youtube video. It's a terrible shitty song. I couldn't listen to but about a minute of it. But this just exemplifies how nutty they are. Wow. They just don’t get it. Especially that last verse, where they say “Don’t tell me what to say or what music I can play.” Hypocrisy much? Not that anyone is actually telling these people they can’t use Merry Christmas for their own personal greeting. Also liked the “stand out from the crowd” bit. ‘Caues, you know, “Merry Christmas” is such a unique greeting. Also love the list of things that supposedly wouldn’t be around without Christmas. Half of them are taken from Yule or Saturnalia traditions. Nice research you got there. If Christ is the “one and only reason for the season” where the hell did the decorated trees come from?
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Post by Star Cluster on Nov 30, 2011 14:06:30 GMT -5
It just so happens my fundie brother sent me an email yesterday with the following youtube video. It's a terrible shitty song. I couldn't listen to but about a minute of it. But this just exemplifies how nutty they are. Wow. They just don’t get it. Especially that last verse, where they say “Don’t tell me what to say or what music I can play.” Hypocrisy much? Not that anyone is actually telling these people they can’t use Merry Christmas for their own personal greeting. Also liked the “stand out from the crowd” bit. ‘Caues, you know, “Merry Christmas” is such a unique greeting. Also love the list of things that supposedly wouldn’t be around without Christmas. Half of them are taken from Yule or Saturnalia traditions. Nice research you got there. If Christ is the “one and only reason for the season” where the hell did the decorated trees come from? Did you happen to catch the name of the group that did the song? The American Christian Life Union. Yep, that's right. Their acronym is the ACLU. Just another nail in the coffin for their belief in the commandment not to steal.
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Post by Random Guy on Nov 30, 2011 14:07:23 GMT -5
Oh, I've got one.
"I was going to preach something else, but as I was going over my notes, the Holy Spirit kept telling me..."
"I asked God and he told me..."
"So there I was, lost in thought, and I heard God say"
"I was praying the other day and God told me..."
Casual references to God telling them something trivial, like it's no big deal, irk me. Especially when it gets used as an excuse to pass judgment on people in a "Don't blame me, I'm just a messenger" way.
Also, calling anything they don't like a religion (evolution, atheism, environmentalism), or claiming that believing in a cause they don't support is "worshiping (cause)."
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Post by Vene on Nov 30, 2011 14:38:39 GMT -5
There is an unspoken exception to Godwin's Law: If the person who brings up the comparison to Hitler or Nazis is a Jew, then they are exempt from the rule and their comparison stands as valid. Because the Holocaust was bad and Jews died in it, m'kay? So, then homosexuals and the disabled are also exempt, right?
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Post by sidburn on Nov 30, 2011 14:44:15 GMT -5
" As for deserving hell, that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. We're talking about a place that is supposed to make Auschwitz look like a resort hotel and we all DESERVE that? No wonder fundies are so heartless and cruel. ". What really drove this home for me was watching my two nephews, ages 2 and 6 grow up. According to many Christians, just the fact that they were born makes them deserving of eternal torture. That is the sickest concept of justice I've ever heard.
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Post by priestling on Nov 30, 2011 14:53:55 GMT -5
" As for deserving hell, that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. We're talking about a place that is supposed to make Auschwitz look like a resort hotel and we all DESERVE that? No wonder fundies are so heartless and cruel. ". What really drove this home for me was watching my two nephews, ages 2 and 6 grow up. According to many Christians, just the fact that they were born makes them deserving of eternal torture. That is the sickest concept of justice I've ever heard. Okay, this I gotta hear... is it because their parents aren't Christian, they turned away from the faith, what? I mean, growing up, the woman that raised me insisted I was going to hell if I wasn't Christian (to which I answered "It's your hell, YOU burn in it!"), so I'd love to hear what the justification is that a couple kids, just by virtue of being BORN, deserve to go to hell.
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Post by N. De Plume on Nov 30, 2011 15:09:21 GMT -5
What really drove this home for me was watching my two nephews, ages 2 and 6 grow up. According to many Christians, just the fact that they were born makes them deserving of eternal torture. That is the sickest concept of justice I've ever heard. Okay, this I gotta hear... is it because their parents aren't Christian, they turned away from the faith, what? No, it is the fundies who go on with, “We all deserve to go to hell, and only through the mercy of Jesus can we be saved.” What they mean is that from the moment of birth (maybe even conception depending on who you ask) everyone is deserving of hell. Period. It is only by learning to kiss divine ass that we are allowed to have a different afterlife.
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Post by sidburn on Nov 30, 2011 15:10:38 GMT -5
What really drove this home for me was watching my two nephews, ages 2 and 6 grow up. According to many Christians, just the fact that they were born makes them deserving of eternal torture. That is the sickest concept of justice I've ever heard. Okay, this I gotta hear... is it because their parents aren't Christian, they turned away from the faith, what? I mean, growing up, the woman that raised me insisted I was going to hell if I wasn't Christian (to which I answered "It's your hell, YOU burn in it!"), so I'd love to hear what the justification is that a couple kids, just by virtue of being BORN, deserve to go to hell. None of the above really - just the doctrine that since we're all sinners, humans are evil by nature, no one is innocent, that we ALL deserve a million billion trillion centuries (and then some) in a place that makes the Holocaust look like a summer camp. After seeing the innocence of my two nephews, it disgusted and infuriated me that someone could believe that EVERYONE, even them, could deserve such a fate.
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Post by Wykked Wytch on Nov 30, 2011 19:06:18 GMT -5
In addition to the nauseating examples of christspeak already given, I would like to submit: "Jesus is the reason for the season." Uh, no. There were festivals and celebrations at this time of year long before the alleged existence of Jesus. Jesus was the reason for the hijacking of said celebrations. It just so happens my fundie brother sent me an email yesterday with the following youtube video. It's a terrible shitty song. I couldn't listen to but about a minute of it. But this just exemplifies how nutty they are. [youtube] www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWrrvQ_3-40&feature=colike[/youtube]Axial tilt is the reason for the season. Is your Jesus Christ an axial tilt? No, he's just a Gary Stu in an OT fanfic that's all about him.
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