Bill to ban aborton based on sex & race of fetus

[foolishwisdom]

In another effort to ban abortions, the House Republicans created the Susan B. Anthony and Frederick Douglass Prenatal Nondiscrimination Act (PRENDA). Which would prevent abortions based on...the fetus' sex and race...quoting GOP Rep. Trent Franks (AZ):

According to Franks, a ban on these types of abortions is needed because minority babies are aborted at five times the rate of white babies and, based on a 2008 report published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, U.S. Census data shows that certain populations have ‘son-biased” ratios due to “sex selection, most likely at the prenatal stages.”[...]

"People will say I have a greater agenda — and they are right — I hope for a day when all children, regardless of race or color, all children because they are children will be protected,” he said.

"But right now regardless of what the long term impact of this might be the short term impact is very simple: Can we not agree that aborting a child based on a child’s race or sex is wrong"

thinkprogress.org/health/2011/12/05/382337/house-republicans-push-bill-to-ban-abortions-based-on-the-race-or-sex-of-the-fetus/

...I'm not gonna bother touching this one.

[lexikon]

All you'll get is the minority of racist/sexist people lying about their abortions, who probably would have shut their mouths anyways?

EDIT: Minorities have more abortions because they often aren't able to care for children due to prejudices that didn't allow them to excel, not as a part of some kind of genocide conspiracy, otherwise it would mean people are turning on their own ethnicity. Makes no sense unless the fetus was mixed-race and it is highly unlikely that a racist person would *#%& someone they think shouldn't exist.


And is it possible to tell the sex through kayrotype charts? IDK when the doctors do that.

[Admiral Lithp]

To have a child of a certain "race," it necessitates that at least one parent is a member of that "race." What you are essentially saying is "You can't abort if you're black." While allegedly trying to argue against racism. You dumbfuck.

Edit: Eh, on reflection, it seems to be more of an attacking a problem that doesn't exist. As I said, minority fetuses are aborted by minority mothers. Race selection probably doesn't feature into it much. But even so, saying you can't make decisions based on the sex of your baby is pretty stupid. What if x-linked disorders run in your family?

[Vene]

Dec 5, 2011 21:58:13 GMT -5 lexikon said:

And is it possible to tell the sex through kayrotype charts? IDK when the doctors do that.

They do an ultrasound.

[ironbite]

So.....wait. They're trying to ban minority abortions based on....sex and race? I'm confused here.

Ironbite-and angry as it's yet another attack on women's rights.

[Shane for Wax]

What's a PRNDL? Oh, it says PRENDA.

Also I am confused.

[Admiral Lithp]

I was reading about one in Ohio that was trying to stop it for any fetus that had a heartbeat. Potential fatalities were exempt, but rape & incest were not.

Honestly, I think I might have been more offended at the heartbeat nonsense. Seriously, why have we not moved on from the superstition that the heart is somehow the basis of a person?

[DeadpanDoubter]

Because if there's a heartbeat there's blood, and if there's blood there's...a...soul?

Ignoring that the word for spirit comes from the Latin word for breath, of course.

[N. De Plume]

I particularly like the attachment of the names of people that have nothing to do with the bill.

[foolishwisdom]

Dec 5, 2011 22:34:09 GMT -5 DeadpanDoubter said:

Because if there's a heartbeat there's blood, and if there's blood there's...a...soul?

Ignoring that the word for spirit comes from the Latin word for breath, of course.

Tell it to the "pro-lifers," see what they say. Won't change their minds, I'm sure, but it'll be interesting to see their reaction.

[VirtualStranger]

Nice. Create a bill that attacks civil rights, and then name it after two long-dead progressives that would have hated you if they were still alive.

[clockworkgirl21]

I wouldn't mind banning abortions that are only being performed because of the sex or race of the fetus, but it sounds like it would difficult to enforce. Also, how could you prove that's why the abortion took place?

[lexikon]

Torture them until they confess.

Of course, that would mean a lot of innocent people woule be charged, but when has that stopped conservatives from wanting to do so?

[nickiknack]

So when did we become China???

[lexikon]

I've heard enough people saying its okay to torture people to extract information from them.

Combined with the personhood amendment, and the proposed law that would make it legal to kill abortion doctors, these people have friends in higher places.