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Post by MaybeNever on Dec 15, 2011 13:58:45 GMT -5
I'm certain we have a few nutters kicking around, but no mainstream politicians of Bachmann caliber. Aw, I kind of wish you had, because then I wouldn't feel so bad about living in America, the ONLY country in all the civilized world that has these nuts. We're far from the only country, but most of the ones who reach (let alone exceed) our fundies either don't get a platform we hear about - how often do even the most radical lunatics get heard in the West if they're from, say, Uganda, or Paraguay, or even France or Germany - or are cut-their-heads-off Muslims toward whom the general consensus is "what can you expect from those brown heathens?" Another good area of attack is Harper's attempts to curtail democracy and debate. Please. I hardly think the electorate is interested in preserving democracy. Isn't that one of those, you know, social diseases?
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Post by gyeonghwa on Dec 15, 2011 16:38:49 GMT -5
We're far from the only country, but most of the ones who reach (let alone exceed) our fundies either don't get a platform we hear about - how often do even the most radical lunatics get heard in the West if they're from, say, Uganda, or Paraguay, or even France or Germany - or are cut-their-heads-off Muslims toward whom the general consensus is "what can you expect from those brown heathens?" To be fair, the far right equivalent of American fundies have been making much noise in Germany as of late.
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Dec 15, 2011 17:37:15 GMT -5
Personally, I say forget this line of attack (for now at least) and focus on the bullshit around the F35 contract. Another good area of attack is Harper's attempts to curtail democracy and debate. I agree, but the problem is that most people are complacent about this kind of thing, or simply don't understand why Harper and the Conservatives' behavior is anti-democratic.
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Post by MaybeNever on Dec 15, 2011 18:14:56 GMT -5
We're far from the only country, but most of the ones who reach (let alone exceed) our fundies either don't get a platform we hear about - how often do even the most radical lunatics get heard in the West if they're from, say, Uganda, or Paraguay, or even France or Germany - or are cut-their-heads-off Muslims toward whom the general consensus is "what can you expect from those brown heathens?" To be fair, the far right equivalent of American fundies have been making much noise in Germany as of late. I don't follow German politics much, but isn't that a decent part of Merkel's base?
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Post by Wendelbek on Dec 15, 2011 21:21:59 GMT -5
Now... I've admitted before that I barely understand politics... Is it possible that this could actually happen up here? Please tell me "no"... Because if this is possible, and if Harper makes the attempt, then you're talking to a woman who's going to take up arms and get ready to start a fucking revolution! Me thinks the libs formed a coalition party, they could take down Harper. (Correct me if I'm wrong Canadians. I don't know much about how it works in the North). The short answer is that, yes, it is possible to have the legislation initially passed, though I think that another user is correct in predicting that it would be subsequently struck down by the Supreme Court. Even though Harper only got 40% of the absolute vote, he got most of ridings due to vote splits and that's what got him his majority government. Even if all the opposing parties formed a single coalition, they'd still be outnumbered. Judging by the way he's running his party, it seems that he thinks this gives him the green right for totalitarianism - nevermind the experts or the statistics or the opinions of most Canadians. He's a blind ideologue. During his years as the leader of a minority government, Harper had been packing the senate with social and economic conservatives (for those who don't know, Canadian senators are appointed, not elected). They have already used their power to veto a climate bill that they disagreed with - it didn't violate the constitution, it was voted on democratically members of Parliament - and they just killed it without any debate. Quite a few users here have said that Canadians disagree with social conservatives on issues like abortion, same sex marriage, capital punishment, and so on, but the Conservatives have a majority so it doesn't really matter what the people think. When they had a minority government, the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc were able to ally together to stop them from doing very stupid things, like bank deregulation. Now there's no obstacle. Sorry if I come off sounding a bit like a doomsday preacher, but Canadians might want to pay attention to the omnibus crime bill that's being pushed through, particularly with regards to Internet surveillance. Not only are the other parties helpless to stop this, but the Conservatives have placed a measly two day limit on discussions and alternative propositions or amendments. It's completely undemocratic and, in my opinion, speaks loudly to the silence of our TV media outlets.
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Post by nightangel1282 on Dec 15, 2011 21:28:56 GMT -5
That video went straight to my favorites. Thank you for the (somewhat scary) lesson on Canadian politics.
Y'know... between the way Occupy Wall Street was handled, and the attitude of the Canadian Government... how long do you think it's going to be before an uprising of the people against large corporations and the government?
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Post by Wendelbek on Dec 16, 2011 10:36:16 GMT -5
That video went straight to my favorites. Thank you for the (somewhat scary) lesson on Canadian politics. Y'know... between the way Occupy Wall Street was handled, and the attitude of the Canadian Government... how long do you think it's going to be before an uprising of the people against large corporations and the government? You're very welcome. As per the possibility of an uprising... Canadians would have to be much more affected. Right now, it seems like we're the most politically apathetic nation on the planet. I know almost no one who even knows what the House of Commons is, let alone how it's being manipulated.
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