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Post by SpukiKitty on Dec 16, 2011 12:56:07 GMT -5
This is getting me confused.
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Post by Kit Walker on Dec 16, 2011 16:29:45 GMT -5
Given the tendency for said individuals to get caught in a pile of meth and other men, I'd say this has to be the point. Really? Nominally closeted freelance public opinion consultants tend to get caught in a pile of meth and other men?
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Post by ltfred on Dec 16, 2011 20:15:08 GMT -5
You can't out people- that might be effective. No - You can't out people, that might do tremendous and irreparable harm to their personal and professional lives. People have killed themselves (with alarming frequency) when dragged out of the closet against their will. Two wrongs don't make a right. It's arguably the lesser of two evils. Forcing people out of the closet, the theory goes, increases the number of people who have a personal contact with an openly gay person, decreasing bigotry.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Dec 16, 2011 20:27:14 GMT -5
No - You can't out people, that might do tremendous and irreparable harm to their personal and professional lives. People have killed themselves (with alarming frequency) when dragged out of the closet against their will. Two wrongs don't make a right. It's arguably the lesser of two evils. Forcing people out of the closet, the theory goes, increases the number of people who have a personal contact with an openly gay person, decreasing bigotry. What an adorably naive viewpoint.
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Post by Wykked Wytch on Dec 16, 2011 20:35:19 GMT -5
It's arguably the lesser of two evils. Forcing people out of the closet, the theory goes, increases the number of people who have a personal contact with an openly gay person, decreasing bigotry. What an adorably naive viewpoint. Let's give homosexuals some of these ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle) so that we can identify them on sight. No hypocrite will escape!
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Post by Kit Walker on Dec 17, 2011 9:51:14 GMT -5
It's arguably the lesser of two evils. Forcing people out of the closet, the theory goes, increases the number of people who have a personal contact with an openly gay person, decreasing bigotry. That is a theory that isn't supported by available evidence.
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Post by Vene on Dec 17, 2011 12:04:16 GMT -5
It's arguably the lesser of two evils. Forcing people out of the closet, the theory goes, increases the number of people who have a personal contact with an openly gay person, decreasing bigotry. That is a theory that isn't supported by available evidence. Page 67Interestingly enough, authoritarian followers show a remarkable capacity for change IF they have some of the important experiences. For example, they are far less likely to have known a homosexual (or realized an acquaintance was homosexual) than most people. But if you look at the high RWAs who do know someone gay or lesbian, they are much less hostile toward homosexuals in general than most authoritarians are. Getting to know a homosexual usually makes one more accepting of homosexuals as a group. Personal experiences can make a lot of difference, which is a truly hopeful discovery. The problem is, most right-wing authoritarians won’t willingly exit their small world and try to meet a gay. They’re too afraid. And “coming out” to a high RWA acquaintance might have long-term beneficial effects on him, but it would likely carry some risks for the outgoing person. There is evidence to support what Fred said.
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Post by Kit Walker on Dec 17, 2011 12:43:37 GMT -5
There is evidence to support what Fred said. Fair enough. I was referring more to gay young people who get disowned for coming out and people who kill themselves when forcibly outed.
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