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Post by lexikon on Dec 23, 2011 0:53:01 GMT -5
Which ones are currently ignored?
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Post by RavynousHunter on Dec 23, 2011 0:53:57 GMT -5
Miles, for that pic, I declare you Winner of the Thread.
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Post by Miles, The Slightly Off on Dec 23, 2011 1:01:22 GMT -5
Once again, forgive me for being...frank, but they've been pretty much shotgunned at you multiple times throughout the thread. By multiple people. Not to mention that if you could put as much effort into reading what you were sent multiple times, as you do into blatantly ignoring it, this wouldn't even be an issue. Also, I'm too lazy to quote. More relevant: True to Caesar, Son of Mars.
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Post by lexikon on Dec 23, 2011 1:17:15 GMT -5
What? Shane was the only person who was making points at me.
I answered pretty much all of Shane's points.
Ironbite- Prove it.
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Post by ironbite on Dec 23, 2011 1:20:38 GMT -5
No you didn't.
Ironbite-stop trying to think you've got a point.
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Post by Miles, The Slightly Off on Dec 23, 2011 1:25:49 GMT -5
Lexi, this argument was started due to Czechmate saying that they were fabrications created to convince the Celts to convert.
Shane corrected him on this, saying that it was actually based upon egyptian beliefs.
Why are you still arguing when the main point that was the cause of the argument, that being that they are fabrications used to get the Celts to convert, has been refuted?
Hell, even *I* refuted it earlier in the thread.
- True to Caesar.
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Post by lexikon on Dec 23, 2011 1:31:24 GMT -5
Now the argument has shifted on whether Xianity was based on Ancient Egyptian mythology, or was more Jewish. It has nothing to do with the Celts now.
Shane claims that there were parallels between Jesus and Horus, and that Gnostics merged them together. I stated that the parallels were false, and that he should give a source. Also, something about Mary and Jesus Iconography and the Sun was important, but it doesn't mean that Jesus was based off a sun god.
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Post by Miles, The Slightly Off on Dec 23, 2011 1:47:06 GMT -5
www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htmFound this just by googling it. It was on the first page. There are a LOT of links that talk about it. This one is also a site that is on the mainpage, so I figure its trustworthy. There is also the fact that Sol Invictus is celebrated on December 25th. This implies a link between a Sun God and Jesus. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_deity- True to Caesar, Son of Mars, Lord of the Eastern Legion, Conquerer of 286 tribes.
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Post by lexikon on Dec 23, 2011 2:01:13 GMT -5
www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htmFound this just by googling it. It was on the first page. There are a LOT of links that talk about it. This one is also a site that is on the mainpage, so I figure its trustworthy. There is also the fact that Sol Invictus is celebrated on December 25th. This implies a link between a Sun God and Jesus. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_deity RT is useful, but not the best source and is way too ambivalent. And December 25 was chosen as the date of Jesus in the 300s and it's possible that there was no connection between that date and pagan holidays or if it was just a coincidence, although I think the early Christians did use this to their advantage.
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Post by The_L on Dec 23, 2011 10:14:13 GMT -5
Um, no. www.tektonics.org/copycathub.htmlI came across this site trying to look for paralles between Egyptian/Greek gods and Jesus, and realized that they were barely any. And I read the Egyptian Myths. Isis was definitely NOT a virgin. I find better paralles between Jesus and heroes from Jewish Mythology, like Moses and Samson. Although Gnosticism was likely the precursor to Orthodox Christianity. Ohhh one whole site. Oh and I can't take that site seriously with that layout. I'm going to need more to go on than one site like that. Considering a lot of things I've found say Isis was a virgin. Sorry, but the whole Jesus/God thing is based on Sun Gods, which Egypt has so there are definitely parallels where that is concerned. Technically, Isis gave Osiris a golden penis when he was brought back to life and they couldn't find his real one. So depending on how you define virginity, and whether you view a golden prosthetic phallus as a sex toy, it really could go either way, since she's said to have gotten pregnant with Horus via that golden penis. Frankly, whether or not Isis was a virgin is irrelevant, as there are other similarities between Jesus and other gods. Lexi, for a complete rundown with loads of cited sources, might I recommend POCM? I feel the need to make this point and then go back to lurking in obscurity, but... It would have been impossible, if I remember correctly, for the celts to have inspired Christian mythology, as that whole business with the Celts would have happened after the business with Jesus. Technically the Celts existed for at least a couple millennia both before and after Jesus. Julius Caesar (died 47 BCE) and the ancient Greeks (several centuries earlier) had run-ins with the Celts. However, by Jesus's time the Celts had been driven back as far as Scotland and Ireland, leaving the Gaulish, Briton, and Germanic tribes behind (it is believed by historians that these tribes were subject to the Celts, without being themselves Celtic). This, so hard. All surviving Celtic legends are about Ireland and the surrounding areas. There is no evidence that Celts ever lived in Palestine, and they wouldn't have been welcome in Rome. Thus, the early Christians would have had little to no contact with the Celtic people. This lack of contact is further evidenced by the fact that Christianity did not reach Ireland or Scotland, the last Celtic holdouts, until fairly late in the game (St. Patrick is the first known Christian to have set foot on Irish soil). EDIT: I've tried to fix that stupid link about 50 times and it won't work. Just copy pocm.info into your address bar.
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Post by Vene on Dec 23, 2011 10:54:38 GMT -5
POCM? EDIT: I've tried to fix that stupid link about 50 times and it won't work. Just copy pocm.info into your address bar. L, you have quotes in the link for some silly reason.
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Post by Star Cluster on Dec 23, 2011 11:28:55 GMT -5
POCMDon't know why you're having such a problem with it. Seems to work fine here. If it for some reason it doesn't work, here's a different link to it.And here's a website that I like that goes into extreme detail of the Christian mythology with a plethora of sources. It isn't a site you can just go through in a short period of time.
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Post by Star Cluster on Dec 23, 2011 11:33:08 GMT -5
L,
Didn't think of it before posting the above, but went back and looked at your link. If you'll remove the & quot; before and after the site address, it will work.
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Post by The_L on Dec 23, 2011 18:50:34 GMT -5
Tried it. About 50 times. Didn't help so I put 'em back in.
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Post by Star Cluster on Dec 24, 2011 7:25:47 GMT -5
Tried it. About 50 times. Didn't help so I put 'em back in. Hmmm, that is odd, indeed. I don't know why it's doing that, then. Just one of those inexplicable computer quirks, I suppose.
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