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Post by nickiknack on Dec 26, 2011 0:16:23 GMT -5
Who wants to go over there and execute vigilante justice? I'll bring the crowbar... Really?? A crowbar??? That's the best you can come up with?? Get in touch with your inner sadist...please
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Dec 26, 2011 1:10:41 GMT -5
Induced sensory hyperstimulation...and then abuse them like children with autism have been abused.
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Post by the sandman on Dec 26, 2011 2:23:37 GMT -5
Who wants to go over there and execute vigilante justice? I'll bring the crowbar... Really?? A crowbar??? That's the best you can come up with?? Get in touch with your inner sadist...please Perhaps he is channeling his inner Gordon Freeman?
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Post by Wykked Wytch on Dec 26, 2011 3:09:03 GMT -5
Who wants to go over there and execute vigilante justice? I'll bring the crowbar... Really?? A crowbar??? That's the best you can come up with?? Get in touch with your inner sadist...please Hm. First, we must restrain the victim and perform what is known as "Chinese water torture", and continue for about a week. In the meantime, the chemical composition of the water will slowly be made more and more acidic over time. (Hydrochloric acid comes to mind... slightly raising the molarity of the solution used each time... heh heh.) Or, if we intend on keeping her alive, we could drop the HCl... after all, the beauty of water torture is that it isn't too violent and never leaves a physical mark. I like this game. It's fun.
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Post by junastarrider on Dec 26, 2011 8:18:57 GMT -5
The only possible explanation that I could justify this teacher's behaviour is that, soft, pressured, confined spaces MAY calm an autistic person down. (In fact, the person who came up with the idea was autistic herself, and noticed that calves on a ranch calmed down when they were confined.)
That being said: What. The. Fuck. Who gave this teacher a license to teach.
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Post by Sigmaleph on Dec 26, 2011 11:16:59 GMT -5
"We shouldn't have to do X" is not a useful guiding principle. You have to deal with a system as it is, not as it should be. In this particular case, that means that it doesn't matter whether we should have to separate special needs children, only what happens if we don't. I have no opinion I care to voice on the subject at hand, mind you. I'm just annoyed with should-universe thinking. So why bother posting? You forget the first part of that sentence, that not all schools have that luxury. No, I didn't. I didn't mention it because it was irrelevant to the point I was making: that you used a fallacious argument. Fallacies don't vanish by being accompanied by valid arguments. Clarify this for me, please: Is your argument about how the system would work ideally, or about what we should do right now with special needs kids? If the first, my apologies. Of course in that case it's valid to consider how the system should be. If the second, I stand by what I said.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Dec 26, 2011 12:11:38 GMT -5
Admittedly, we have made some leaps and bounds with how the school system deals with children but I can't exactly feel content. Though I do have to face facts that we will never prevent every single bad thing from happening in the schools and to try for that will be a losing battle with wasted resources.
In a perfect world, nothing like this would happen because the system would be perfect when it comes to dealing with children in the schools. I sometimes think about that perfect world and then look at how things are now.
The system, ideally, would make it to where kids don't have to be afraid of going to school because of their teachers and bullies alike.
I'm not sure I said anything about the things we should do right now tho. In light of this story we should of course be aware that things aren't how we want them to be. But thinking of how they should be in a perfect world doesn't hurt that much except in the knowledge of knowing we aren't in such a perfect world.
I don't know if I answered that properly. I'm tired and have had Benadryl.
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Post by mezuzas on Dec 26, 2011 13:15:09 GMT -5
It figures this would happen in KY. That poor child I've been around autistic children before, and I never even knew it because the kids acted perfectly 'normal' around me. I think a lot of it is the children are being exposed to something to bring out the behavior. I remember when my girl was little she was friends with an autistic boy at the day care and they'd play together all sweet like. I had no clue, because he always seemed like a normal boy. Years later the mother and I ran into each other and we were talking and she was talking about an incident at school where the teacher did something to him (also a KY school btw) and was talking about his being autistic. I was stunned and was like, 'you're son's autistic? But he seems so normal.' She was actually stunned that someone referred to her son as normal. I think too many people try to fit others in a box, and when they don't fit then they label the person as having something wrong with that person instead of thinking that there might be something wrong with the box. There are way too many personalities to fit everyone into a labeled box. It has long been my belief that the ones trying to force everyone else to conform to their preconceived notions are the ones with the real issues.
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Post by tolpuddlemartyr on Dec 26, 2011 16:24:02 GMT -5
Apparently this isn't the only fucked up case like that in Kentucky. ... I am ashamed for this abomination on behalf of the entire teaching profession! Edit: @ LHM Lighty, I know you are just tossing out flame bait but the problem here clearly isn't merely putting special needs kids in the mainstream. The problem is that in a particular state in America those kids are being tortured. Putting special needs kids in the mainstream can be very positive for all parties provided it's done right. Done right means providing suitably qualified aides to assist the special needs child and plenty of input from medical professionals, checks, balances and oversight to prevent abuses and maximize educational opportunities for the child. It also means not torturing them.
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Post by mezuzas on Dec 26, 2011 17:36:52 GMT -5
Hello, tol. What is that video clip from?
Thanks.
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Post by tolpuddlemartyr on Dec 26, 2011 17:43:54 GMT -5
Game of Thrones. The character being slapped is Joffrey Lannister. A character who becomes a boy king who's an incredibly vindictive little sadist who rules like an unholy crossbreed of Joe Stalin and Justin Bieber. The slapper is Tyrion Lannister, a midget who's the coolest character in Game of Thrones also the uncle of Terrible Joffrey who's slapping him for being terrible because he can!
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Post by mezuzas on Dec 26, 2011 17:51:46 GMT -5
Game of Thrones. The character being slapped is Joffrey Lannister. A character who becomes a boy king who's an incredibly vindictive little sadist who rules like an unholy crossbreed of Joe Stalin and Justin Bieber. The slapper is Tyrion Lannister, a midget who's the coolest character in Game of Thrones also the uncle of Terrible Joffrey who's slapping him for being terrible because he can! Ok, ty. Maybe we could send Tyrion after the teacher who abused the child. He seems to have quite a punch.
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Post by Ian1732 on Dec 26, 2011 18:23:38 GMT -5
When I saw this, I thought it was the Onion. Then my faith in humanity went down another point.
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Post by Sigmaleph on Dec 26, 2011 19:32:42 GMT -5
@shane: My mistake, then. Sorry.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Dec 26, 2011 19:35:51 GMT -5
It's alright.
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