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Post by Art Vandelay on Dec 30, 2011 21:12:25 GMT -5
Meh, to be honest I don't think adults really have a noticeably better ratio of normal people to mouthbreathing dumbfucks. Then again I could be wrong. Especially when it comes to ability to stir up drama. In that area, teens are head and shoulders above the rest of us.
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Dec 31, 2011 2:22:09 GMT -5
Meh, to be honest I don't think adults really have a noticeably better ratio of normal people to mouthbreathing dumbfucks. Then again I could be wrong. Especially when it comes to ability to stir up drama. In that area, teens are head and shoulders above the rest of us. Oh shit. Yeah, no. Lemme introduce you to a 'lovely' bunch of immature 40-year-old goddamn mothers who ought to know better but don't act like it.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Dec 31, 2011 2:57:37 GMT -5
If it's all the same to you, I'd rather we not be made aware of each other's existence.
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Dec 31, 2011 3:09:12 GMT -5
That's fine. One of them in particular would be likely to try and rape you, anyway, so it's for the best.
Fucking middle-aged twits.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Dec 31, 2011 3:20:44 GMT -5
...She'd try and rape me of all people? Really? What, does she also enjoy sticking her own head in the toilet?
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Dec 31, 2011 15:49:25 GMT -5
Not to mention that teenagers tend to experience the strongest emotions.
Especially those of a certain nature that involves their developing sexuality.
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Post by Vene on Dec 31, 2011 15:59:10 GMT -5
Cait, you reminded me I have this bookmarked.
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Post by rageaholic on Dec 31, 2011 17:08:26 GMT -5
Cait, I was the same way. I hated most other teenagers when I was one, but now that I'm older, I understand where many of them are coming from. Yeah, they can be obnoxious little shits (especially in groups), but I've learned that the obnoxious ones are just the most noticable. It also doesn't help that the media paints them in a bad light.
I think it's because I was a late bloomer and didn't start to really question things till I was 18 (when I got my own laptop). I just sort of went with what I was taught at home, but now I realize there is an entire different world out there. So while they were striving for independance, I was doing things the "safe" way.
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Post by VirtualStranger on Dec 31, 2011 17:39:36 GMT -5
Being a teenager myself, I've noticed that the teens who say things like "I'm not like other people my age" tend to be the ones who act exactly like everyone else their age, while still harboring a completely undeserved sense of superiority. People who actually feel "different" don't tend to shout it to everyone they meet, even if they are comfortable with it. Relevant.
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Post by lighthorseman on Jan 1, 2012 2:21:51 GMT -5
Being a teenager myself, I've noticed that the teens who say things like "I'm not like other people my age" tend to be the ones who act exactly like everyone else their age, while still harboring a completely undeserved sense of superiority. People who actually feel "different" don't tend to shout it to everyone they meet, even if they are comfortable with it. Relevant.Yes, the people claiming loudest to be individuals are invariably the ones who dress identically and blast the immediate area with the same mass generated pop
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Post by Tigger_the_Wing on Jan 1, 2012 18:06:21 GMT -5
I'd seriously hate to be a teenager again. Horrible age to experience for many people. The thing is, all adults were teenagers once. Maybe the ones who act the most awful towards teens are actually subconsciously reacting against being reminded of the fact. They are trying to repress the memories and are irrationally furious at the people who inadvertently dredge them up. It is my opinion, for what it's worth, that High Schools and their equivalent are far, far too big. And primary schools are heading the same way. It is the market, and its 'economies of scale' having got involved, and it is a terrible idea. My twins went from a primary school of 15 students and 2 staff in Ireland to one of over 350 students and over 60 staff (half support and language teachers) in Australia. Talk about culture shock! There were twice as many languages represented in the school as there had been students in the previous one! There were 32 kids in their class. When we as a society do that to our kids, warehousing them like products in an industry, packaging them in groups where the only common denominator is their year of birth, we strip them of their individuality in the eyes of society and many (not all; there are some wonderful teachers out there) of the teaching staff. Instead of their education being the personal interest of every teacher, many kids go through school without ever being recognised by name by an adult. Being called "Hey! You!" doesn't do wonders for the self-esteem! And then adults wonder why they feel disaffected? That is a tragedy, and is perfectly preventable if we were prepared to raise our taxes to increase the number of schools and teaching staff, reduce class sizes and overall school rolls, and give back to teachers the ability to know each one of their students as a person. At the moment we have a catch-22. So many students have a horrible experience of school that far too few (especially males) want to go into a career in education. The shortage of teachers leads to huge schools and enormous class sizes, thus making school an unpleasant experience and reinforcing the cycle. The wealthier parents can afford to support and send their kids to smaller schools with smaller class sizes and better facilities, as they've always been able to. It's not compulsory education that is the problem. Few people have a problem with learning things. It's the unpleasant way that their education is managed that they are complaining about. We stuff them into crowded classrooms with people they probably would not have chosen to hang out with, we treat them as if we think they are imbeciles, we fail to act appropriately when they have legitimate complaints and then tell them they are ungrateful brats. Way to raise a whole generation! Another thing. Apart from shopping malls, what facilities do we as a society provide for teens where they can hang out for free and do stuff by themselves or with their mates without being supervised by adults? They aren't little kids any more, they need space and the facilities to enjoy just being alive. There are kids' playgrounds in every suburb, but the play equipment invariably has a low age limit. Why aren't there more skate/BMX parks? Free outdoor swimming/paddling pools? Local councils put on free art and exercise classes for the elderly, why not ones for teenagers? Why aren't halls made available for free discos? What happened to Saturday morning cinema? Why are teens charged as adults for almost everything whilst not having adult rights? As a demographic, they have every right to feel disaffected. Oops. Another teal deer from granny…
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Post by The_L on Jan 1, 2012 20:42:21 GMT -5
More like great truth from granny. :3
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Jan 1, 2012 20:48:10 GMT -5
*hugs granny Tigger* This, so much.
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Post by lexikon on Jan 2, 2012 22:51:00 GMT -5
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Post by Tigger_the_Wing on Jan 3, 2012 19:19:00 GMT -5
Good point, (and good link) lexikon. What a lot of the complainers don't realise is they can use the technology too and the only reason they aren't being nagged for being lazy in their old age by their grandparents' generation is because the latter are dead. I can just see some 140-something complaining that today's retirees have it easy compared to when they retired… To everyone that complains that people have it easier in many ways now compared to what they had to put up with when they were whatever age it is they are complaining about: good. Isn't that the long-term goal of humanity? To keep improving our lives? Meantime, just because the younger generations face different challenges to the ones we faced doesn't meant that they are all lazy, ungrateful brats (although those are to be found in every age group). To every old person who complains to a youngster that they had to do blah-blah-blah (= whatever flavour of tough chore) when they were young, it's worth pointing out that their grandparents had it even tougher and perhaps they should try examining their own privileges? I know I am wont to complain about my painful arthritic disorder, ankylosing spondylitis, which has been attempting to fuse all my bones together all my life. Then I realise that the key word there is 'attempting'; thanks to modern anti-inflammatories, it hasn't actually succeeded in fusing one, single joint. Whereas my great-great uncle was folded permanently by a completely fused spine from the same disease. During my childhood and adolescence smallpox was killing millions worldwide, mostly children, each year; and had been doing so for countless millenia. It was eradicated by the time I got married and before I had any children of my own. Perhaps I'm weird, but I would prefer it if today's adolescents had an easier time of it than previous generations. Why should I feel jealous of them? If I want something that wasn't available when I was a kid, I can buy it for myself, now! The problem is that the few bad apples get all the attention, because bad news sells newspapers/tv programmes, and the vast majority of decent human beings of all ages are ignored.
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