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Post by davidh72000 on May 11, 2009 18:50:37 GMT -5
Isn't that an argument in favor of abortion also? If christians believe dead fetuses get a free ticket to heaven, how is that a bad thing? I actually saw someone who otherwise seemed like a fairly typical fundie use this as an argument for abortion once. I will try to find it, but it was posted years ago at another board so I don't know if I will be able to. This poster was very young at the time, but it was still really weird to see someone using this as a serious argument. |
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Post by The Lazy One on May 13, 2009 15:16:42 GMT -5
The Pearls confuse me. One article will be something nice, like this piece about encouraging your child to be what they want to be. And then there's this confusing article. While he makes some good points about not wanting his daughter to marry a loser, he goes about it all wrong. And then, we reach the big pile of fail. This disgrace made me so angry that I could barely see straight for a few seconds. What drives people to do something like this? |
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Post by silencesoloud8603 on May 14, 2009 14:35:18 GMT -5
Once upon a time, my parents subscribed to the Pearls' rubbish. I picked up one of the magazines and it opened to this article. I later found the website. This waste of oxygen is probably the main influence in my dad spanking me until I was almost 14 and in the hardcore sheltering. I hate Michael Pearl much more than I hate Fred Phelps. A fire is much too quick and painless to be the way he dies. |
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Post by The_L on May 14, 2009 15:19:15 GMT -5
Nope sorry Lady Renae but you're wrong. Because, for some inexplicible biologial reason, your body rejected the growing parasite that had been implanted in you, you are at fault. Now off with your shirt so I can give you 20 lashes with a wet noddle. Hell, I remember the one time I (foolishly) had unprotected sex, and wouldn't you know, I was one of the unlucky ones who got pregnant with an unwanted child. But I didn't know it at first, and even when I realized what was happening to me I didn't want it. I ended up having a miscarriage during the early stages (in other words, you could just tell, if you squinted, what that tiny dead thing was). Bear in mind that I did not expect this, I did not want this, the last thing I wanted was to become a parent at that point in my life. I was devastated. I felt inferior, I felt like a murderer for months (even though intellectually I KNEW it wasn't my fault), and even now I wonder sometimes if I'll be able to bear children when the time is right. If I'd gotten Pearl's sick "advice," I probably would have committed suicide. I generally pride myself on judging actions rather than people, but in this case I fall short--Gods help me, but I cannot see Michael Pearl as anything but a monster. To prey on women like this, during a highly emotional and distressing time in their lives...there are no words strong enough to describe how horrible that is. |
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Post by wmdkitty on May 16, 2009 4:16:29 GMT -5
Isn't that an argument in favor of abortion also? If christians believe dead fetuses get a free ticket to heaven, how is that a bad thing? What I found most interesting about Pearl's response is how he suggests a baby is better off dead than disabled. As a disabled person: DIAF |
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Post by Paradox on May 16, 2009 11:05:18 GMT -5
Approximately one in every five pregnancies ends in miscarriage. You didn’t do anything wrong to cause this, and nor was there anything you could have done to prevent it. Your husband may not be as connected to his grief over this event as you are, because the baby was merely an idea for him whereas it was a living reality you carried within yourself. For him to fully understand what you’re going through, you’ll have to talk frankly with him about what you’re feeling and why. The Book of Psalms is filled with ancient poetry by people who suffered through events outside their control. Most of the Psalms had happy endings in the form of a doxology that praised God, but many did not. Some Psalms of lament ended in the same way as they began: with uncertainty about God and about the general goodness of the world. In your grief, you’ve tapped a most ancient root – the very same as was tapped by the Psalmists nearly 3000 years ago. And like them, there will be no easy comfort for you – except the knowledge that you are not alone. Did you write this? It's beautiful. |
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Post by Thejebusfire on May 16, 2009 14:41:55 GMT -5
Once upon a time, my parents subscribed to the Pearls' rubbish. I picked up one of the magazines and it opened to this article. I later found the website. This waste of oxygen is probably the main influence in my dad spanking me until I was almost 14 and in the hardcore sheltering. I hate Michael Pearl much more than I hate Fred Phelps. A fire is much too quick and painless to be the way he dies. I like it how he claims that god hates prostitution but yet Exodus 21:7-11 says it's okay to sell your daughter as a sex slave. Isn't that involentary prostitution? |
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Post by Nutcase on May 16, 2009 16:51:20 GMT -5
As a disabled person: DIAF Just FYI: I was merely clarifying Pearl's views on disability, not defending them. I found it ironic that a 'pro-lifer' would, inadvertently or not, take the position Pearl did in his response: 'How do you know the child wouldn't have been born with disabilities?' -- as if it makes miscarriage easier to bear for a potential mother to think God worked some sort of eugenic magic in her womb. My husband uses a power wheelchair. He has a genetic condition that could be passed to half our offspring. When I had a miscarriage, a well-meaning doctor offered that very sentiment - maybe the kid would have been born disabled - in an effort to comfort me. It had the opposite effect. Did you write this? It's beautiful. Yes...and thank you. |
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Post by wmdkitty on May 16, 2009 22:30:37 GMT -5
Nutcase -- the DIAF was directed at the "Pearls".
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