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Post by antichrist on Mar 7, 2009 16:21:54 GMT -5
@ trike
She looks so cute and goofy there. Do her ears not stand properly?
I'm going through puppy stuff right now, I'm about ready to pack him up and send him back to the breeder. Smart is not always good.
Our old rott (that passed away this summer) was probably as stupid as you could get without forgetting to breathe, but he was the sweetest dog you could ever have. Even if he dislocated my knee, sprained my ankle and almost smothered me on a number of occasions.
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HoJuSimpson
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A woman is like a beer
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Post by HoJuSimpson on Mar 7, 2009 17:02:47 GMT -5
When we got her, we though she was one of the most intelligent of the litter. Now she hasn't got two brain cells to rub together. But she is the cutest and sweetest thing ever. Aww  what a cutie |
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Post by trike on Mar 10, 2009 6:45:35 GMT -5
She can get her ears to stand up properly if she tries hard enough, but I think she has figured out that she gets more love if her ears stay goofy like that. As a puppy they flopped in the opposite direction, so we don't really know whats up with her ears.
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Post by captainhooker on Mar 10, 2009 15:46:32 GMT -5
Yes, and such egregious examples of alcohol abuse should not be tolerated on this board. |
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Post by deliciousdemon on Mar 10, 2009 17:48:19 GMT -5
I know this is not a photo of a drunken animal, but bear with me.
Apparently some studies with primates suggest that an affinity for alcohol is adaptive. After all, alcoholic beverages are very high in calories, so a baboon with a taste for alcohol in fermenting fruit might have an evolutionary advantage over a a baboon that didn't because the former animal would be more likely to take advantage of a rare but high calorie food source.
There are also pretty interesting anecdotal cases of animals on the savannah getting tipsy after eating copious quantities of fermenting fruit.
Higley et al (1991) did an interesting study (abstract below)
Abstract
Twenty-two 50-month-old rhesus monkeys were provided concurrent free access to an aspartame-sweetened 7% ethanol solution and an aspartame-sweetened vehicle before, during, and after social separation. Subjects had been reared for their first 6 months of life either without access to adults but with constant access to age mates (peer reared), a condition producing reduced exploration and increased fear-related behaviors, or as controls with their mothers; thereafter, all subjects received identical treatment. During home-cage periods, for 1 hr each day, 4 days a week, when the ethanol solution and vehicle were freely available, peer-reared subjects consumed significantly more alcohol than mother-reared subjects. When stress was increased via social separation, mother-reared animals increased their alcohol consumption to a level nearly as high as that of peer-reared monkeys. Average individual differences in alcohol consumption were markedly stable over time. In addition, there were strong positive correlations between alcohol consumption and distress behaviors. Biological indices of increased stress, such as plasma cortisol and corticotropin, were higher in peer-reared subjects. Within the peer- and mother-reared groups, these indices were positively correlated with alcohol consumption. The results suggest that early rearing experiences that predispose monkeys to increased fear-related behaviors produce excessive alcohol consumption under normal living conditions. Furthermore, a major challenge such as social separation increases alcohol consumption to levels producing intoxication even in monkeys not particularly vulnerable to stress.
And Gerald & Dee (2002) did a short but interesting paper in an evolutionary context.
ABSTRACT
Given our close phylogenetic relatedness, non-human primates, in principle, could serve as an ideal model for alcoholism. Indeed, many studies in both humans and rhesus macaques show relationships between excessive alcohol consumption, aggression and serotonergic function, as measured by concentrations of the principal metabolite of serotonin, 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid (5-HIAA) in the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF). An important behavioral predictor of excessive alcohol consumption in both humans and rhesus monkeys is the propensity toward impulsivity. Integrating behavioral and neuroendocrine data from captive and semi-free-ranging rhesus macaques, we posit that benefits derived from impulsive and aggressive behaviors in some contexts might contribute indirectly to the maintenance of traits involved in alcoholism and excessive alcohol intake.
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Post by antichrist on Mar 12, 2009 1:29:00 GMT -5
I watched a show on tigers where they were filming one getting off on catnip in the wild.
You think a housecat is crazy on that shit? Imagine if said house cat weighed 800 pounds.
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Post by CtraK on Mar 21, 2009 22:12:21 GMT -5
Why didn't we do this 2 years ago? I remember Yahweh cursing free-range BB software. Did it improve since then? I don't find it abhorrent. A little sterile. Fuck crying. Let's get this party started! Agreed, I can't see what the major issue is. That said, I thought Yahweh ran this place for longer than 2 years. And the whole thing about animal drunkenness is just getting weird. |
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Post by wmdkitty on Apr 2, 2009 20:05:56 GMT -5
Isn't stout a dark beer or ale? That's not cool. I don't like people doing stuff like that to their animals. My old roommate would get her dog drunk, and she thought it was so funny. I used to know this guy who would get his dog high. He though that was funny. Personally, I think it's cruel. Those animals have no idea what's happening to them. Hey, I had a kitten that LOVED to get stoned -- I shit you not, you'd load up the pipe and he'd be sitting there like, "you gonna share that?" |
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Post by wmdkitty on Apr 2, 2009 20:10:06 GMT -5
I watched a show on tigers where they were filming one getting off on catnip in the wild. You think a housecat is crazy on that shit? Imagine if said house cat weighed 800 pounds. Ha ha, that sounds like it'd be fun to watch (from a safe distance). |
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what a cutie
