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Post by Admiral Lithp on May 30, 2009 17:32:00 GMT -5
Seriously. From what I understand, it wasn't long ago the scientific community thought they were extinct. Nowadays, I see them every time I go to the beach--& here's the kicker--I've never seen a NORMAL crab.
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on May 30, 2009 17:38:12 GMT -5
And I've never seen a horse with anything like those creepy critters attached to their feet. Am I right?
...Oh, I thought you were doing stand-up. It sounded like a bit, and I've been watching a lot of Seinfeld lately...
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Post by Admiral Lithp on May 30, 2009 17:46:30 GMT -5
And I've never seen a horse with anything like those creepy critters attached to their feet. Am I right? ...Oh, I thought you were doing stand-up. It sounded like a bit, and I've been watching a lot of Seinfeld lately... I was going for that, actually. Thank you. Edit: Also, I like horseshoe crabs, creepy though they may be.
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Post by antichrist on May 30, 2009 21:05:10 GMT -5
I don't remember ever hearing they were extinct. I know there's a lot of fossils around of them. But I remember them as a kid.
Being land locked, I've never seen one in the wild though.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on May 30, 2009 21:47:08 GMT -5
I don't remember ever hearing they were extinct. I know there's a lot of fossils around of them. But I remember them as a kid. Being land locked, I've never seen one in the wild though. Every show I ever watched that had a segment on them says that people thought they were extinct for a time. Along with that one fish...can't remember what it was....
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Post by Hades on May 30, 2009 22:12:06 GMT -5
They're not horseshoes, they're not crabs, I mean, what's the deal?
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Post by Star Cluster on May 30, 2009 22:37:52 GMT -5
I don't remember ever hearing they were extinct. I know there's a lot of fossils around of them. But I remember them as a kid. Being land locked, I've never seen one in the wild though. Every show I ever watched that had a segment on them says that people thought they were extinct for a time. Along with that one fish...can't remember what it was.... The coelacanth is the fish you're thinking about. Fundies use it in an effort to demonstrate that science is full of shit because scientists said it was extinct. But like Antichrist, I'd never heard that Horseshoe Crabs were extinct and have seen them my whole life. We used to catch them while surf fishing on the North Carolina Outer Banks when I was a kid. Now it may be true that people a long time ago thought they were extinct, but I've just never been aware of that.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on May 31, 2009 0:14:52 GMT -5
Every show I ever watched that had a segment on them says that people thought they were extinct for a time. Along with that one fish...can't remember what it was.... The coelacanth is the fish you're thinking about. Fundies use it in an effort to demonstrate that science is full of shit because scientists said it was extinct. But like Antichrist, I'd never heard that Horseshoe Crabs were extinct and have seen them my whole life. We used to catch them while surf fishing on the North Carolina Outer Banks when I was a kid. Now it may be true that people a long time ago thought they were extinct, but I've just never been aware of that. Strange. And yes, it was coelecanth. I know Fundies do that some time. They just don't seem to understand that admitting when you make mistakes=/=being wrong all the time. Just waiting for one of them to say to me, in an evolution debate, "I KNOW, you THINK," to complete the irony. If that ever happens, I will submit the quote at speeds defying all of physics.
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Post by Tiger on May 31, 2009 13:24:59 GMT -5
The coelecanth and horseshoe crab are both considered "living fossils"--creatures that have changed very little for hundreds of millions of years.
Horseshoe crabs are the closest living relatives of trilobites.
Other than that, I have no idea what you might be referring to.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on May 31, 2009 19:46:35 GMT -5
The coelecanth and horseshoe crab are both considered "living fossils"--creatures that have changed very little for hundreds of millions of years. Horseshoe crabs are the closest living relatives of trilobites. Other than that, I have no idea what you might be referring to. It...MIGHT have been that, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't.... This calls for a Wikitrip on my part. Edit: Yeah, I can't find anything, either. *Shrug.* Guess it'll always remain a mystery. I am wondering, though. The copper-based blood is common among mollusks, but not among mammals. Are there any reasons why mammals didn't evolve that way? Edit II: Or, rather, would it be problematic if a mammal DID have coper-based blood?
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Post by David D.G. on Jun 1, 2009 16:41:19 GMT -5
The coelecanth and horseshoe crab are both considered "living fossils"--creatures that have changed very little for hundreds of millions of years. Horseshoe crabs are the closest living relatives of trilobites. Other than that, I have no idea what you might be referring to. It...MIGHT have been that, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't.... This calls for a Wikitrip on my part. Edit: Yeah, I can't find anything, either. *Shrug.* Guess it'll always remain a mystery. I am wondering, though. The copper-based blood is common among mollusks, but not among mammals. Are there any reasons why mammals didn't evolve that way? Edit II: Or, rather, would it be problematic if a mammal DID have coper-based blood? Spock didn't seem to find it too inconvenient (and occasionally even found it useful, such as when the hemoglobin-absorbing cloud creature infiltrated the Enterprise), though the green color prompted a lot of sniping comments from Dr. McCoy. ~David D.G.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Jun 1, 2009 17:56:48 GMT -5
It...MIGHT have been that, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't.... This calls for a Wikitrip on my part. Edit: Yeah, I can't find anything, either. *Shrug.* Guess it'll always remain a mystery. I am wondering, though. The copper-based blood is common among mollusks, but not among mammals. Are there any reasons why mammals didn't evolve that way? Edit II: Or, rather, would it be problematic if a mammal DID have coper-based blood? Spock didn't seem to find it too inconvenient (and occasionally even found it useful, such as when the hemoglobin-absorbing cloud creature infiltrated the Enterprise), though the green color prompted a lot of sniping comments from Dr. McCoy. ~David D.G. Should be blue. From what I gather, blood only turns green during the buildup of certain toxins. And from what I've been reading, it's more effective in colder climates, because the oxygen is more pressurized, or something to that effect. Also, it's apparently useful for antibody research. Which led me to nightmare fuel: They actually bleed horseshoe crabs. They release them (though they sometimes die in the process), so it's not any animal cruelty thing that's bothering me, it's just...can you picture that? A room full of the creepy bastards. Bleeding. With that blood being collected for experiments. *Shiver.*
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Post by Oriet on Jun 1, 2009 20:46:45 GMT -5
They actually bleed horseshoe crabs. They release them (though they sometimes die in the process), so it's not any animal cruelty thing that's bothering me, it's just...can you picture that? A room full of the creepy bastards. Bleeding. With that blood being collected for experiments. *Shiver.* Like a more humane version of Hojo's lab? [/FF7]
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Post by Mira on Jun 1, 2009 21:47:41 GMT -5
I believe you are thinking of the extinct fossil pokemon Kabuto. Well, extinct in that you can only get them through reviving them from their fossil form. However that works out.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Jun 1, 2009 21:49:12 GMT -5
Oriet, exalt, Mattias, what the fuck are you talking about?
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