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Post by peanutfan on Mar 7, 2009 12:56:28 GMT -5
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7926694.stmSummary: The adults who secured a nine-year-old rape victim who was carrying twins in South America a life-saving abortion are now set to be excommunicated from the Catholic Church. The Church, apparently, has decided that it would like to be completely irrelevant rather than just MOSTLY irrelevant. Discuss.
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Post by MozMode on Mar 7, 2009 14:46:27 GMT -5
Typical fucking Church, I say. Would rather see a 9 year old child die than compromise their absurd beliefs.
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Post by szaleniec on Mar 7, 2009 14:50:08 GMT -5
The Catholic Church has this strange tendency to go into "LET'S PISS OFF THE WORLD YAY" mode every so often, just when people might be beginning to think that they might not be so bad after all. Seriously, I very much doubt that Jesus would have approved of letting a 9-year-old girl die in a preventable manner through no fault of her own.
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Post by deliciousdemon on Mar 7, 2009 14:50:49 GMT -5
It is hard to believe anyone would be cold enough to not consider that maybe, sometimes, there are special circumstances where what you believe should be pushed aside for what is practical (or in this case--life saving).
If she had went into labour all three would have died.
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 7, 2009 15:18:27 GMT -5
It is hard to believe anyone would be cold enough to not consider that maybe, sometimes, there are special circumstances where what you believe should be pushed aside for what is practical (or in this case--life saving). If she had went into labour all three would have died. There are those who believe that abortion is NEVER acceptable. Which is a shame, because you'd think they might have some redeemable qualities.
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Post by Sandafluffoid on Mar 7, 2009 15:44:49 GMT -5
Seriously, I don't think this archbishop fella has actually paid any attention to the case he is talking about. He's probably heard the words "9 YEar old" "rape" "twins" "almost certainly fatal" and "abortion" yet the only word he remembers is abortion.
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Post by kiwimac on Mar 7, 2009 15:50:21 GMT -5
Interestingly the step-father, who raped the 9 year old, is not eligible for excommunication. Apparently rape is not serious enough to warrant such a punishment.
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Post by MaybeNever on Mar 7, 2009 15:57:39 GMT -5
This reminds me of the girl who had Celiac disease (an allergy to gluten) and consequently couldn't receive Communion because the wafers were made from wheat. The church refused on doctrinal grounds to substitute rice wafers, which seems awfully harsh because the Celiac disease would be god's doing anyway.
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 7, 2009 16:37:01 GMT -5
Interestingly the step-father, who raped the 9 year old, is not eligible for excommunication. Apparently rape is not serious enough to warrant such a punishment. I really wish I could say I was surprised. Angry, yes. Surprised, no. For the life of me, I can't understand why an abortion to save a life is grounds and raping a 9 year old girl isn't.
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Post by ironbite on Mar 7, 2009 17:31:00 GMT -5
Jesus Christ....I was actually expecting an answer on that though.
Ironbite-just boggles the mind when people value unborn(or not even formed) life over an actual living breathing human.
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Post by headache on Mar 7, 2009 17:37:07 GMT -5
Why do I have such an extreme urge to grab a cactus, wrap it in barbed wire and dip it acid and then shove it up the ass of the pope and other religious morons?
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 7, 2009 17:47:10 GMT -5
Why do I have such an extreme urge to grab a cactus, wrap it in barbed wire and dip it acid and then shove it up the ass of the pope and other religious morons? Because you want them to feel powerless and violated, like the people they silently allow to be treated like this?
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Post by Paradox on Mar 7, 2009 18:11:36 GMT -5
This reminds me of the girl who had Celiac disease (an allergy to gluten) and consequently couldn't receive Communion because the wafers were made from wheat. The church refused on doctrinal grounds to substitute rice wafers, which seems awfully harsh because the Celiac disease would be god's doing anyway. I'm not sure why it would matter. Don't they believe that it becomes Jesus anyway? Does the infinite power of God not extend to rice-based food products?
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Post by shadoom on Mar 7, 2009 20:28:55 GMT -5
At least the Vatican is consistent, they've been massive douches for the last 1000 or so years so people have mostly worked out what to expect from them.
It's better than the fundies who can't seem to decide who they feel like screwing over on a given day.
"Angry, yes. Surprised, no." seconded
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Post by Caitshidhe on Mar 7, 2009 20:40:32 GMT -5
That's it. Firebomb the Vatican, it'll be for the best. Yet more reasons why the anti-abortion faction and the Catholic church are both full of batshit crazy, heartless, sadistic bastards who must seriously get their jollies from the suffering of innocent people. Especially women and children. This was a life-saving operation, no different than if the girl had had a massive tumour that would have killed her. Anybody who would sentence a little girl--one who has already suffered horrible torture as it is--to death from SOMEONE ELSE'S WRONGDOING can't possibly be worth the air they breathe. They get Bonus Hatred Points for the fact that the man who raped her isn't eligible for the same punishment as the doctors who saved the little girl's life.
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