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Post by Tiger on Jun 23, 2009 18:53:52 GMT -5
Let's not be too hasty. I'm willing to bet that Bible-based oil drilling is every bit as effective as Bible-based medical science. Hey now. If you know a better way than leeches for draining bad blood I'd like to hear it. Does the Bible even mention leeches?
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Post by Ian1732 on Jun 23, 2009 19:00:27 GMT -5
Ok, this is one of the rare articles that make me curious, and then when I click the link, there's no video! ... You guys did say there was a video, right? EDIT: Nevermind, I wasn't looking hard enough. Mmhmm... Well, at least they are using actual science, and not setting out to disprove evolution.
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Post by lonelocust on Jun 24, 2009 0:54:55 GMT -5
There are a couple of firms using bible-based "science" to drill for oil in Israel. Unfortunately, Moses went looking for milk and honey instead of oil and turned left instead of right, otherwise, geopolitics would be vastly different today. Wonder why the god in the bible gave oil to today's arabs/muslims/persians/russians/venezualans and whoever...perhaps he wanted to avoid really, really, really bad anti-semitism? Wonder what the fundies think of THAT! The Biblically-claimed Israel encompasses a MUCH bigger piece of land than the current state of Israel, including some oil-rich areas. I believe actual historians have no evidence to suggest that the original united Kingdom of Israel that encompassed this territory actually existed historically.
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Post by lonelocust on Jun 24, 2009 1:02:25 GMT -5
I finished watching the video after posting the article, and they actually still assume a correct geological model for where to look for the oil as far as depth goes. They're just relying directly on Biblical prophecy as to where geographically they are looking. I'm not sure if that is more or less stupid. Probably about the same. Does the Bible even mention that kind of oil? Where the hell are they getting this from, some sort of Bible code bullshit? Apparently from Genesis 49:25 "... the Almighty, who shall bless thee with... blessings of the deep that lieth under..."They are interpreting "blessings of the deep that lieth under" as oil. Of course, even just looking at the context of that ONE VERSE shows you "the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb" So it's pretty clearly saying "God's going to bless you in all sorts of stuff!" and it's using "blessings of heaven above" and "blessings of the deep that lieth under" as opposed poles for demonstrating how God's supposed to bless them in all ways. I don't believe any of the Bible has any sort of factual worth, but even if you do, that's a really stretchy interpretation.
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Post by gizmoturner on Jun 24, 2009 11:51:49 GMT -5
" I believe actual historians have no evidence to suggest that the original united Kingdom of Israel that encompassed this territory actually existed historically. "
Huh? There is plenty of evidence by "actual historians" that an Israel existed.
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Post by lonelocust on Jun 24, 2009 12:09:43 GMT -5
" I believe actual historians have no evidence to suggest that the original united Kingdom of Israel that encompassed this territory actually existed historically. " Huh? There is plenty of evidence by "actual historians" that an Israel existed. I belive there is no evidence that the Biblican Kindom of Israel ever occupied all of the land that the Bible claims that it did. This included all of or almost all of current Israel/Palestine, Syria, and Jordan, and parts of Iraq and Saudi Arabia.
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Post by Star Cluster on Jun 24, 2009 12:31:53 GMT -5
" I believe actual historians have no evidence to suggest that the original united Kingdom of Israel that encompassed this territory actually existed historically. " Huh? There is plenty of evidence by "actual historians" that an Israel existed. If you have links for that, I'd certainly be interested in seeing them. When I read your post, I googled "historical Israel" and of the few links I followed out of the first few listed, they appeared to speak in historical terms, but then it seemed I continuously ran into phrases such as "according to the Bible", "by accounts in the Torah", "according to the Old Testament accounts." They would then proceed to give names and events that are straight out of the OT. This even included an official Israeli website. We do know for a fact that the Jews existed in that time. That is without question. However, I have read recently, but can't recall from what source, that recent archeological findings cast serious doubt onto the biblical accounts of the Israelites, that their history is significantly shorter than is generally thought (again, based on the Bible), and that they were actually a few small tribes of nomadic people instead of a great kingdom we have been led to believe existed. Again, if you have links to actual historical evidence of the ancient kingdoms of Israel, I'd would be very interested in seeing them. I am very curious about this. And if I am mistaken, I will readily admit it. I'm just going on what I have read recently.
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Post by ironbite on Jun 25, 2009 1:23:07 GMT -5
Hell, if you go by most Biblical "Scholars", the Biblical Kingdom of Israel was an area that encomphased all of the Arab world and crept into parts of Greece.
Ironbite-weird that they'd want the cradle of civilization huh?
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