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Post by Captain Nemo on Jul 28, 2009 20:32:34 GMT -5
Alright, this is going to sound insane, but humor me. As you know, there is a massive hole in the Ozone Layer over Antarctica which is a major contributor to global warming. Well, lightening splits the air and makes ozone, right? And Tesla Coils produce lightening, right? Then what if we install a field of Tesla Coils in Antarctica and keep them firing until the Ozone Layer is replenished?
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Post by antichrist on Jul 28, 2009 20:36:00 GMT -5
Well we actually have lots of ozone down at our level. Enough to call it pollution and screw with our breathing.
If you can figure out a way to get the ozone pollution from down here up to the ozone layer, you would of killed two birds with one stone.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Jul 28, 2009 21:02:55 GMT -5
I'd conjecture that the heat from something like that, if it would work, would fuck up the ecosystem of Antarctica.
Also, obligatory "how do we get the lightning to strike the exact level we need it to?"
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Post by Mantorok on Jul 28, 2009 21:58:35 GMT -5
I thought rising levels of chlorine in the stratosphere was the problem, and the Ozone Layer can recover if we can just reduce the amount of chlorine up there?
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jul 28, 2009 22:15:20 GMT -5
And how, pray tell, do you intend to generate the power to supply enough testla coils to bring the ozone concentration back up to its natural level? Unless you've made great leaps in renewable technology, it's most likely only going to make things a whole lot worse. There is also the issue of shifting the ozone from the troposphere (where it is a very very bad thing) to the stratosphere, where it do its thing with the UV rays. Not to mention the cost of setting up such a facility, which would be enourmous in the best situation, but on antarctica of all places would be downright ludicrous. You could just use that money to plant trees, fund R&D and bribe enough politicians to pass much higher CO2 targets and taxes and it would do a hell of a lot more for dealing with global warming.
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Jul 28, 2009 23:12:43 GMT -5
I was just going to patch the hole with duct tape...
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Post by lunarxero on Jul 29, 2009 1:52:45 GMT -5
I was just going to patch the hole with duct tape... Duct tape fixes everything
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Post by Trevelyan on Jul 29, 2009 1:54:50 GMT -5
I think we just need to go with a cap program. Fuck the trade part. If you manage to come in under the amount you were granted to pollute, congratulations, you get a gold star.
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Post by Tiger on Jul 29, 2009 2:06:34 GMT -5
I'd conjecture that the heat from something like that, if it would work, would fuck up the ecosystem of Antarctica. Does antarctica even have an ecosystem once you get a few hundred miles inland?
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Jul 29, 2009 2:29:23 GMT -5
I'd conjecture that the heat from something like that, if it would work, would fuck up the ecosystem of Antarctica. Does antarctica even have an ecosystem once you get a few hundred miles inland? I have no idea.
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Post by Hades on Jul 29, 2009 6:28:18 GMT -5
I was just going to patch the hole with duct tape... Duct tape fixes everythingIn the immortal words of Lewis Black, "We've got men, we've got rockets, we've got Saran wrap... FIX IT!"
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Post by lumberjackninja on Jul 29, 2009 9:08:54 GMT -5
The Ozone layer is self-regulating. Understand that ultraviolet radiation drives the creation of ozone, and ozone blocks UV light.
Therefore, if we have a 'hole' in the ozone layer, by leaving it alone, more UV should get through and manufacture more ozone; this reduces the rate of ozone creation, which reduces the rate at which UV is allowed in, which reduces ozone creation, which increases the rate at which UV is let in...
Eventually, it should reach steady-state equilibrium and we should be fine. That is, if we can avoid overwhelming the system with the chemical aerosols that destroy ozone faster than ozone can be created. This happens because ozone is highly reactive (They use 'ozonated' water in bottled water; they charge it with ozone and let it sit for a couple days to let it kill bacteria, and by then it's all decomposed into oxygen). While it normally wouldn't have anything to react with in the upper atmosphere- N2 gas and water just aren't that willing to be oxidized without some energy incentive (especially N2, with that super strong triple bond)- the addition of CFCs, which are /also/ fairly reactive, gave the ozone something to oxidize.
I don't know how much ozone you'd have to manufacture to solve the problem. While powering ozone producers (air ionizers, basically, that are tuned to a voltage for optimal ozone production) with nuclear reactors would be a conceptually acceptable technology, the sheer amount of ozone you'd have to produce (and by extension, heat from nuclear power plants) is probably too much to make it an economical solution. Instead we should stick to using ammonia or CO2 as refrigerants (I'm a big fan of ammonia, myself), and make it easy for people to de-commission refrigerators and air conditioners so that their innards don't spill harmful materials into an uncontrolled environment.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Jul 29, 2009 15:59:36 GMT -5
Inner Fundie: That was just some fancy-sounding words used to make the THEORY (which means "uneducated guess") sound like a FACT! There is no hole in the Ozone layer, Satan's just trying to lead you to damnastic--damniscience--damni--damne--Hell.
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Post by Captain Nemo on Jul 30, 2009 1:29:18 GMT -5
To be honest, I just want giant Tesla Coils frying penguins around the Mountains of Madness. After all, isn't that what every sane person has ever wanted?
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Jul 30, 2009 3:36:13 GMT -5
To be honest, I just want giant Tesla Coils frying penguins around the Mountains of Madness. After all, isn't that what every sane person has ever wanted? I want a Klondike bar. If this will get me one, I'll throw my support behind this plan 100%.
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