tregnier2795
Junior Member
You have entertained us long enough. Give the other young ladies a chance to exhibit.
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Post by tregnier2795 on Sept 1, 2009 22:46:33 GMT -5
I say leave it. I personally don't find it any more upsetting than anything else on FSTDT, the only thing is that it's targets are different.
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Post by Mantorok on Sept 1, 2009 22:47:59 GMT -5
The idea is to stop splitting hairs over where a quote belongs, and focus on whether it's really "darndest".
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Post by Lady Renae on Sept 1, 2009 22:53:20 GMT -5
Thank you Mantorok.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Sept 1, 2009 23:04:57 GMT -5
Fstdt isn't about showing how hateful people are, it's supposed to be funny. Otherwise it would be fundies say the most hateful, bigoted, fucked-up things. I'm quoting this from the site description: "An archive of the most hilarious, bizarre, ignorant, bigoted, and terrifying quotes from fundies all over the internet! The FSTDT archive is the largest collection of fundie quotes on the planet. "Yes, that is exactly what FSTDT is about.
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Post by Lady Renae on Sept 1, 2009 23:06:14 GMT -5
The merge would only be in effect in the way of letting the good quotes through that fit the guidelines while keeping out the things that did nothing but piss people off. In effect, we would be getting rid of the section entirely, as there are good racist quotes that also qualify as fundie. Heck, there's on on the mainpage right now if memory serves me correctly.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Sept 1, 2009 23:07:27 GMT -5
I vote nae. How is a quote about lynching niggers because they lust after white women terrifying, while a quote about lynching fags because the babble says so is okay? Precisely.
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Post by Lady Renae on Sept 1, 2009 23:19:06 GMT -5
I vote nae. How is a quote about lynching niggers because they lust after white women terrifying, while a quote about lynching fags because the babble says so is okay? Precisely. Actually, I personally think neither one is ok. I think both aren't good enough for the site. Just my personal opinion, though.
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Post by Mantorok on Sept 1, 2009 23:19:31 GMT -5
I vote nae. How is a quote about lynching niggers because they lust after white women terrifying, while a quote about lynching fags because the babble says so is okay? Precisely. If both are truly worthy quotes, they'd still appear. It's about getting rid of the dross.
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Post by Vene on Sept 1, 2009 23:30:50 GMT -5
If we get rid of RSTDT I think we'd have to get rid of CTSTDT as well. I really have no personal investment in any part of the mainpage, I rarely head to the damn thing.
That being said, I would have no reason removing it, after all, part of being a fundie is using nonsense to back up your position. We just have to get it into people's skulls that fundie doesn't necessarily mean religious. From the racist quotes I know of, they are largely motivated by poor arguments, misuse of logic, fraudulent information, and are fundie. After all, fundie is a mindset, not specific beliefs.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Sept 3, 2009 5:14:04 GMT -5
Well, Vene, I think we SHOULD remove RSTDT & CTSTDT.
I mean, what's the point? Not as much attention is paid to them, 99.9% of the time their quotes are "Fundie" even though they aren't "religious," & personally, I don't want FSTDT sectioned off into a billion little categories.
Some Fundies are; mysoginistic, racist, homophobic, conspiracy theorists, religious, non-religious, &/or more. Do we HONESTLY need a section for all of them? I know we don't have that, but people HAVE pushed for separate sections, in addition to the current 3.
I just don't see the point. Why not put all of the quotes together, maybe label what they entail, maybe not?
I can't be alone in this opinion...right?
I've seen a lot of posts to the effect that we shouldn't get rid of them because some people like them, but I haven't seen a whole lot about keeping the sections separate. Honestly, why should we do that? They're all different flavors of Fundie.
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Post by Captain Nemo on Sept 3, 2009 5:23:04 GMT -5
I've been visiting this site for years and have only entered RSTDT and CTSTD once or twice. I say remove.
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Post by Bezron on Sept 3, 2009 9:25:22 GMT -5
I say merge all three categories into one "Quotes" section. There could be, perhaps, a labeling system whereby each quote gets tagged with "Racist" "Conspiracy" "Religious" or "Other". Maybe add in a filtering option so that if someone only wanted to view the "Conspiracy" quotes, they can. That way, also, someone can just scan the posting for a key word (niggers, for ex) and skip the posting if they think it will be rage inducing.
I think, ultimately, having multiple areas makes the site unwieldy. Of course, I am also all for a mainpage redesign to make the quotes the main focus and all of the other stuff (links, etc) secondary.
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Post by dantesvirgil on Sept 3, 2009 9:51:42 GMT -5
Personally, I don't think "rage inducing" ought to be the mechanism for rejecting a quote. I grew up fundy. There are a ton of things that "rage induce" me on the main page, because I know from first hand experience what that sort of thinking actually means in practice. It's not a reason to reject the quotes.
I mean, either way, people are going to bitch, right? But if we merge the quotes, there will be people bitching that those things aren't really fundy because fundy = religious, etc. etc. I think as long as it's not an administrative hassle, we ought to not merge nor whack the categories.
One of the reasons those other categories might not be as viewed as the main page is that it's something of a "sub forum" in itself. It's presented as a choice amongst three choices, and most people come here looking for religious fundy quotes. It may just be that fewer people are interested, sure, but as long as the system works, why not keep it? I mean, who does it hurt? If you don't want to read it, don't click it, right? As long as it's not an admin hassle, I don't see what the harm is. Let the few who like it keep enjoying it.
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Post by lonelocust on Sept 3, 2009 11:41:49 GMT -5
I have voted to leave it. However, I think it *does* serve largely to infuriate the populace. I personally like to have it there for when people claim that racism is dead. I prefer to point them there rather than actually venturing to visit Stormfront or somewhere else where I can readily find racism at any time. Additionally, it demonstrates that racism isn't only apparent on white supremacist sites, but also on random forums, YouTube, etc.
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Post by Tiger on Sept 3, 2009 14:44:26 GMT -5
I say merge all three categories into one "Quotes" section. There could be, perhaps, a labeling system whereby each quote gets tagged with "Racist" "Conspiracy" "Religious" or "Other". Maybe add in a filtering option so that if someone only wanted to view the "Conspiracy" quotes, they can. That way, also, someone can just scan the posting for a key word (niggers, for ex) and skip the posting if they think it will be rage inducing. I think, ultimately, having multiple areas makes the site unwieldy. Of course, I am also all for a mainpage redesign to make the quotes the main focus and all of the other stuff (links, etc) secondary. I voted for "Keep it" but I would prefer this very much. Instead of people picking a single category, show them a series of checkboxes and a "check all that apply". Proposed categories: Religious*, Wingnut, Sexist, Homophobe (or LGBTQ-phobe), Conspiracy Theorist, Racist. *Needs to be worded differently. We need a word for "crazy religious person" that isn't "fundie" or "fundamentalist".
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