Rubyfruit
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Just your friendly neighborhood bisexual Agnostic
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Post by Rubyfruit on Mar 16, 2009 6:44:39 GMT -5
Feh.
By most definitions, I have a "good" father (as in, he didn't walk out on me and my mom when I was five, he doesn't drink or do drugs, he's capable of holding a job, et cetera), but the relationship between my parents and myself has actually deteriorated the more into Evangelical Christianity they got, which was about the same time I started questioning my beliefs (which was when I was about...fifteen, sixteen).
So I cannot say that my relationship with my dad fell apart because I'm Agnostic. It actually fell apart for a whole clusterfuck of reasons, starting with the fact that, well, I got older.
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Post by canadian mojo on Mar 16, 2009 7:11:49 GMT -5
My parents are atheists, and I get along great with both of them. Go figure.
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Post by Bojangles on Mar 16, 2009 8:17:50 GMT -5
This old thing again. I've heard it so many times before. As it happens I don't have a good relationship with my father - that's because I don't have a relationship with him because the last time he saw me I was a day old.
Fundies seem to think that because I don't have a relationship with daddy, I reject the sky-daddy because I am worried about being betrayed in the same way, which is nonsense. For me personally, it had no bearing on rejecting the concept of god or not.
Some people have crappy parents, some people don't. At least most people know that their parents, crappy or not, exist.
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Post by Star Cluster on Mar 16, 2009 8:39:30 GMT -5
My dad was an every Sunday church goer. In fact, he was a Sunday School teacher. He and I got along as well as any typical father and son could. He was a masonry contractor and I worked for him for years. When he died suddenly of a heart attack, I was married and had two children of my own. In fact, my mom and dad, my wife and children and I, and even my wife's mom and dad, were all on vacation together when he died, essentially dying in my arms.
After he died, I took over teaching the Sunday School class that he had taught. It was not until two or three years later that I began to question my faith and quickly rejected religion. And while after more than twenty years since his death I still think of him almost daily, my dad never once entered my mind as a reason for rejecting religion as nothing more than superstition, myths, and fables. And up to the time I rejected religion, I didn't really know any atheists so that was not a n influence on me, either.
So yeah, as far as I'm concerned, I agree that this article is nothing more than utter bullshit.
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 16, 2009 8:56:49 GMT -5
I get along great with my Dad. And both of us lost our "faith" (read: programming) a long time ago.
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Post by MozMode on Mar 16, 2009 13:15:30 GMT -5
Feh. By most definitions, I have a "good" father (as in, he didn't walk out on me and my mom when I was five, he doesn't drink or do drugs, he's capable of holding a job, et cetera), but the relationship between my parents and myself has actually deteriorated the more into Evangelical Christianity they got, which was about the same time I started questioning my beliefs (which was when I was about...fifteen, sixteen). So I cannot say that my relationship with my dad fell apart because I'm Agnostic. It actually fell apart for a whole clusterfuck of reasons, starting with the fact that, well, I got older. Ya, that's the thing. My parents never walked out or anything. They've been married for 22 years. They were just heavy into Catholicism. It was never a bad childhood.
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ldm
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Post by ldm on Mar 16, 2009 14:01:00 GMT -5
I was raised Catholic, and my dad was as good a father as a kid could ask for.
Fail.
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Post by wackadoodle on Mar 16, 2009 15:40:19 GMT -5
Every group has idiotic propaganda like this. They can't stand the thought that anyone could disagree with them, so the obvious answer is that anyone who does MUST be crazy, rebellious, in denial, disturbed, angry, a liar, etc. The answer doesn't have to make since, their folowers just want to be told that no sane person could ever disagree with them. PS: my dad's great. He's stood by me on things most 'true christians' would disown their kids for.
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Post by maanantai on Mar 16, 2009 16:02:57 GMT -5
So that's why I'm atheist! Good to know that having no faith in supernatural things/beings has nothing to do with it (Yes, I've TRIED to believe, in so many things, and well, I never succeeded) Yes, I kinda have bad father/daughter relationship. Meaning that we don't have any kind of relationship - unless you count christmas cards we sent to eachother, and this has happened for last 4 or 5 years only. We kinda didn't see eachother in 20 years after my mom left his abusing ass and moved along with her life. On the other hand I do get along with my stepdad, quite well actually considering that I never thought of him as my father. And no, neither one of my dads is religious. Not that I'd know about it.
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Post by Jebediah on Mar 16, 2009 16:33:59 GMT -5
I get along with my dad really well. Fundies come up with the most ridiculous bullshit.
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Post by The Lazy One on Mar 16, 2009 16:53:13 GMT -5
See? I don't know why this made me so mad. I guess stupid people annoy me, and this is just a shining example of projecting on the part of the fundies.
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Post by Armand Tanzarian on Mar 16, 2009 17:26:21 GMT -5
My dad is one of those people I respect a lot, even if I almost never talk with any of my family members anymore. Me losing my faith has absolutely nothing to do with my parents, we practiced a loose animistic faith but I shed that too when I moved out of the house. The same thing goes for my mom.
I only see my family once a year, despite that I feel I have an excellent relationship with my parents. I know I'm the black sheep, and anything that happens I only have myself to blame. They've been supportive of everything I've do, and I'll always support whatever they do.
Damn I miss them.
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Post by MozMode on Mar 16, 2009 17:29:22 GMT -5
See? I don't know why this made me so mad. I guess stupid people annoy me, and this is just a shining example of projecting on the part of the fundies. It made me mad too. It's just another freaking stereotype the Fundies will throw at us.
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Post by The Lazy One on Mar 16, 2009 17:56:47 GMT -5
See? I don't know why this made me so mad. I guess stupid people annoy me, and this is just a shining example of projecting on the part of the fundies. It made me mad too. It's just another freaking stereotype the Fundies will throw at us. Well, in that case, HEY FUNDIES! My name is The Lazy One. I'm an atheist. I also get along great with my dad. So shut the fuck up about other people's family lives! It's not your concern! Damn, I feel better now.
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Post by Thejebusfire on Mar 16, 2009 18:58:05 GMT -5
My father isn't atheists, nor is he religious. We have good relationship anyway.
Just becuase you talked with a small group of atheists who had bad family relationships doesn't mean there all that way. It's just a lie made up to make atheists and even agnostics look bad.
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