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Post by skyfire on Oct 28, 2009 23:15:21 GMT -5
Would it reflect profound ignorance on my part to ask what makes some meats and cheeses "European style"? For starters, a lot of American-made cheeses have to undergo pasteurization, a process that - if done wrong - can damage the flavor. Specifically, the way the criteria is set up a company can bring the dairy solution that will be used to a boil at one of two temperatures: a lower temperature where it must sit for an extended period, or a higher temperature where it can come off the boil far faster. Going for that higher temperature means that the companies can process the dairy solution much more quickly, but if handled incorrectly the higher temperature will also throw the flavor off. A lot of your European cheeses, however, are exempt from having to do so and so generally tend to have their full flavor intact. Alton Brown actually went into an extended rant about this during an episode of "Good Eats." |
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Post by mistermuncher on Oct 28, 2009 23:32:08 GMT -5
Ah. So, in this case, "European" is a synonym for "not fucked", n'est pas?
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Post by skyfire on Oct 28, 2009 23:46:17 GMT -5
Ah. So, in this case, "European" is a synonym for "not fucked", n'est pas? Pretty much. |
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Post by Art Vandelay on Oct 29, 2009 0:46:04 GMT -5
A meat and cheese sandwich that's been deep-fried and covered in sugar? Hell yeah I'd eat it. Not sure if this is exactly the norm though...
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Post by Trevelyan on Oct 29, 2009 8:12:03 GMT -5
Sky,
The idea of having a sandwich that is in some way unique, or a "misfit" itself would be good I think. However, I also don't think you should go with deep frying it. That just sounds....ew. Perhaps some kinda special recipe sauce, or conflicting ingredients that when combined in a certain way and a certain way only are good?
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Post by skyfire on Oct 29, 2009 8:24:58 GMT -5
Sky, The idea of having a sandwich that is in some way unique, or a "misfit" itself would be good I think. However, I also don't think you should go with deep frying it. That just sounds....ew. Perhaps some kinda special recipe sauce, or conflicting ingredients that when combined in a certain way and a certain way only are good? I'm just going by the original version that first manifest itself. |
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Post by davedan on Oct 29, 2009 15:29:42 GMT -5
Ah. So, in this case, "European" is a synonym for "not fucked", n'est pas? Yeah well not fucked until they deep fry it and cover it with powdered sugar. |
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Post by MaybeNever on Nov 1, 2009 16:13:44 GMT -5
Maybe the twist could be that the meats are actually made from people! Nobody's done that before, right?
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Post by SimSim on Nov 1, 2009 16:25:11 GMT -5
I dunno, but it'd be great if you could get Charleton Heston to over dramatically yell about it, MN.
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Post by davedan on Nov 1, 2009 18:18:54 GMT -5
As long as the people were european it would fit
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Post by skyfire on Nov 9, 2009 16:06:08 GMT -5
Tossing out a few more ideas and prospective prices, just to see if this is a place people would eat at in real life -
*peanut butter & jelly - $0.75
*peanut butter & real fruit - $1
*thin-sliced, breaded, and fried chicken, pork, or beef strips topped with fruit preserves and cheese and served on a brotchen (a type of thick German bread roll) - $2.50
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Post by davedan on Nov 9, 2009 16:50:02 GMT -5
Skyfire,
What is with the sweet and savoury thing? Fuck Americans are sick fuckers!
That said the last one sounds kind of OK but just.
If you are going to whip out german bread why not have Zweibelbrot (not sure if that is spelt correctly) which is German onion bread - which is frankly awesome. I think a classic Zweibelbrot sandwich would rake in the customers.
Also your prices look ok but then I'm not American so not sure what they should be.
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Post by SimSim on Nov 9, 2009 16:59:31 GMT -5
The prices are a bit low, unless you're having you character trying to under sell the compition.
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Post by skyfire on Nov 9, 2009 17:21:40 GMT -5
The prices are a bit low, unless you're having you character trying to under sell the compition. The last three represent items off of the "value menu," a concept which is all the rage here in American fast-food and casual dining facilities. |
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Post by skyfire on Nov 9, 2009 17:29:44 GMT -5
Skyfire, What is with the sweet and savoury thing? Fuck Americans are sick fuckers! In many different cultures, it's a common thing to mix meat with fruit. For example, Polynesian cuisine tends to mix pork with pineapple, while in some parts of Latin America you see chicken mixed with lime or lemon and German cuisine places beef & chicken with apples. A few years ago, mom made pork chops one night. They ended up coming out dry, and so I decided to see if we had anything that might sweeten them up. All we had was some preserves, which had the same effect on the taste as fresh fruit would have. Hence, the idea. |
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