Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 7, 2009 1:48:52 GMT -5
TL;DR, but I'll provide the link for context, anyway:
atheiststooges.wordpress.com/2007/04/17/a-challenge-to-any-atheist/#comment-1138
You know those things Creationists often do. Prove evolution/the big bang/God doesn't exist beyond a shadow of a doubt, if you dare!
These 'tards want the "author of atheism."
Early Greek movement? Natural stance given philosophical form? You don't know? No. All 3 are wrong. The answer is "Satan."
So, basically, you have atheists (or "God-Haters," as they say) arguing against annoyingly aggressive Fundies. Here's some highlights of their "arguments":
Note: This person stated, quite frankly, that they were going to quote from a source. Also, this gem:
Response: Idiot. I have real life obligations like homework, & this is the kind of shit you attempt to “debate” me with. Is it any wonder why I don’t wish to waste my time? This got me:
Note that these are some of the "rebuttals" from his preceding post:
This word, "troll," I do not think he knows what it means.
Note that I never said that. They're fond of making shit up.
Next breath:
Gonna stop before this post gets any longer. I just thought someone might be amused by these shenanigans.
atheiststooges.wordpress.com/2007/04/17/a-challenge-to-any-atheist/#comment-1138
You know those things Creationists often do. Prove evolution/the big bang/God doesn't exist beyond a shadow of a doubt, if you dare!
These 'tards want the "author of atheism."
Early Greek movement? Natural stance given philosophical form? You don't know? No. All 3 are wrong. The answer is "Satan."
So, basically, you have atheists (or "God-Haters," as they say) arguing against annoyingly aggressive Fundies. Here's some highlights of their "arguments":
RULES OF ATHEISM
1. “I’m right and you are wrong”.
2. Never admit that you are wrong, even if you really are.
3. When you have nothing to say, hurl insults.
4. Regard and portray your own violence, whether physical, psychological,
or verbal, at all times as defensive.
5. Specific example for 4.: Cry for “freedom from religion”, but whenever
followers of other faiths want the same freedom and courts agree, scream
“Persecution!”
6. Be prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when backed
into a corner in an argument
7. When caught lying, always accuse the opposition of lying rather than
be honest and admit the obvious
8. Never accept responsibility for any mess you have personally caused.
9. When you are forced to admit to an error, regard the whole process of
error and correction as part of atheisms failure for you and not as a
something for which you should apologise retract or make amends except
verbally and secretly to yourself
10. Always see yourself and you personal actions as part of no ones plans for
the world. Recognise that even your errors are just part of being a vertabrate monkey out of the premordial slugde
11.Profess humility but avoid the actual experience of it.
12.Refuse to take in information that differs from your own view and
oppose all such information through classification of such information in
a derogatory and simplistic manner(eg by categorising it as right wing
propaganda)
13.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
14.Refuse to forgive anyone else for anything because you have no moral compass guiding you.
1. “I’m right and you are wrong”.
2. Never admit that you are wrong, even if you really are.
3. When you have nothing to say, hurl insults.
4. Regard and portray your own violence, whether physical, psychological,
or verbal, at all times as defensive.
5. Specific example for 4.: Cry for “freedom from religion”, but whenever
followers of other faiths want the same freedom and courts agree, scream
“Persecution!”
6. Be prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when backed
into a corner in an argument
7. When caught lying, always accuse the opposition of lying rather than
be honest and admit the obvious
8. Never accept responsibility for any mess you have personally caused.
9. When you are forced to admit to an error, regard the whole process of
error and correction as part of atheisms failure for you and not as a
something for which you should apologise retract or make amends except
verbally and secretly to yourself
10. Always see yourself and you personal actions as part of no ones plans for
the world. Recognise that even your errors are just part of being a vertabrate monkey out of the premordial slugde
11.Profess humility but avoid the actual experience of it.
12.Refuse to take in information that differs from your own view and
oppose all such information through classification of such information in
a derogatory and simplistic manner(eg by categorising it as right wing
propaganda)
13.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
14.Refuse to forgive anyone else for anything because you have no moral compass guiding you.
“Reality 1: Everyone including atheists know the Christian god, God is real. We know he is real since we call him God with a capital “G” — that proves it right there. The more than 2,500 accounted for “gods” are all made up to attempt to draw Christians away from the one Tue god, God. All these non-Christians hate Christians, as well as God.”
“Look I warned you if you pull this crap again I’ll ban your IP from posting here. If you want to debate then debate, but if all your interested in is in scouring uploads from other peoples work then posting them as your own your going to get banned.”
Note: This person stated, quite frankly, that they were going to quote from a source. Also, this gem:
And I restate that you, you, the idiot tries to past in a ton of supposed “evidence”. You want to spend five minutes with copy and paste and then falsely ridicule anyone who doesn’t spend days responding to each and every one of them. So I selected the first one (Titallak) in the list and then answered it.Now you try to find as much as you can, specifically because of how foolish I made you look, which only shows that you know that I you didn’t know what you are talking about then and you still don’t. You have however, learned how to copy and paste claims. If asked to go into detail about them, in your own words, of course,you will not be able to.
That being said, whenever I argue the point creation vs. evolution I am always willing to make the following compromise:
I, as a believer in creation, was created sentient, whole and able to walk upright, complete with full intellectual faculties.
You, as a believer in evolution, slowly evolved from primitive single celled creatures to “higher” forms of life who were hairy neanderthals who dragged their knuckles on the ground and until recently, were unable to even grow crops.
But hey, to each his own.
I, as a believer in creation, was created sentient, whole and able to walk upright, complete with full intellectual faculties.
You, as a believer in evolution, slowly evolved from primitive single celled creatures to “higher” forms of life who were hairy neanderthals who dragged their knuckles on the ground and until recently, were unable to even grow crops.
But hey, to each his own.
“The problem with you is that you have this huge empty hole right through the middle of your heart and you need revenge for being born. That’s the entire focus of your life.”
Response: Idiot. I have real life obligations like homework, & this is the kind of shit you attempt to “debate” me with. Is it any wonder why I don’t wish to waste my time? This got me:
There’s a huge difference between troll baiting and debating so do your homework well.Now, please, do everyone a favor and either think of something intelligent to say, or don’t say it at all. Or just be as stupid as I am convinced you are, and flame me again. Take some junior high English classes before you fail miserably at sending out any more of your idiotic “flames.” Secondly, your opinions don’t mean anything to me, or anyone else with a lick of sense, so keep them to yourself.
Note that these are some of the "rebuttals" from his preceding post:
I’ve spanked, owned, racked, and punked you out and you somehow still think you are winning. I doubt you could even get a REG to come in here and back you on this one. I’m sure they don’t want to look stupid going down the drain with you.
You fit the textbook definition of a troll.You are nothing more than prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when backed into a corner in an argument.
You wouldn’t know nonsense from truth if it hit you upside your head with a crowbar- You have two faces, and you don’t even try to hide them. You say one thing in one comment and in the next completely contradict your last statement. Try not to let these people watching think you’re some great debater. You’re borderline schizophrenic and that’s not name calling. You really say one thing then the opposite next to get your ways.
Second, Jesus is presented as a real person who claimed to be divine and who performed miracles. These accounts are attested to by reputable witnesses and have been transmitted to us reliably; the New Testament documents are 99.5% textually pure. Santa Claus is intentionally, and knowingly, presented as a fictional character who lives at the North Pole.
You mean, I tell the truth and I show everyone what a liar you are and that makes you angry and you post
innuendo saying that I’m a troll. Doens’t work.
(Note: He actually called me a troll. Not the only time he confused his comments with mine, either.)
You fit the textbook definition of a troll.You are nothing more than prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when backed into a corner in an argument.
You wouldn’t know nonsense from truth if it hit you upside your head with a crowbar- You have two faces, and you don’t even try to hide them. You say one thing in one comment and in the next completely contradict your last statement. Try not to let these people watching think you’re some great debater. You’re borderline schizophrenic and that’s not name calling. You really say one thing then the opposite next to get your ways.
Second, Jesus is presented as a real person who claimed to be divine and who performed miracles. These accounts are attested to by reputable witnesses and have been transmitted to us reliably; the New Testament documents are 99.5% textually pure. Santa Claus is intentionally, and knowingly, presented as a fictional character who lives at the North Pole.
You mean, I tell the truth and I show everyone what a liar you are and that makes you angry and you post
innuendo saying that I’m a troll. Doens’t work.
(Note: He actually called me a troll. Not the only time he confused his comments with mine, either.)
This word, "troll," I do not think he knows what it means.
Since you offer nothing in support of this claim besides sweeping (and disfigured) generalizations (e.g., “Like all creationist whom are misguided, you certainly fit the cake.”), it remains unqualified and unsubstantiated, as does the balance of your message.
Note that I never said that. They're fond of making shit up.
The commonality is that they were “ALL ATHEISTS,” and bore the fruits of atheism. Atheism is deadly to both the spirit and society. It makes dimwits of all of its subjects and is a demonic ideology as I’ve proven. Atheists are the most distrusted minority in the world and there are very good reasons for that.
Next breath:
And you create one logical fallacy after another and step over them like they are weeds. Can you be more specific so I can educate you on my scientific discipline and how it’s blowing your unscientific discipline out of the stratosphere?
“What about the citation that atheism has killed tens of millions of people worldwide and why have you dodged that? Here I’ll give it to you again so can can be the honest intellectual you’d have me to believe that you are.”
Without the chemical equation your naturalistic view has collapsed. Love can only become an emotion when it is created from a divine diety and not from rocks, dirt, and talking monkeys.
“Oh thats fresh, you inability to answer a challenge with a weak attempt then place the challenge back on the challenger. A typical God-Haters move. All too prevelant in your circle.”
Gonna stop before this post gets any longer. I just thought someone might be amused by these shenanigans.
