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Post by jordan666 on Nov 9, 2009 18:55:08 GMT -5
Two JW's came to my house to promote a convention in the area or something. I told them I was atheist and politely disagreed and corrected what they were trying to tell me and tried to get them to understand that I don't believe the Bible to be accurate. They ended up coming back a week later with "proof" for me. They were trying to prove that the Bible is completely, 100% accurate. I pulled the "Bats aren't bird, rabbits don't chew their cud" card. One of the girls suddenly got excited and apparently had a whole essay, written by some guy in the 1850's, that "proved" that rabbits chew cud. After she read it to me, I asked the ladies to hold on. I went inside, grabbed my mini-rex rabbit, Lenore, and then came back out and gave them a full lesson on rabbit anatomy and how it would be physically impossible for a rabbit to chew cud and what that 1850's naturalist had observed was a rabbit eating cecotropes, which is like partially digested poo. I explained in full detail that rabbits cannot throw up, and thus, while cecotropes can be related to cud in a way, it's not the same thing. Lenore was such a trooper for that. They never came back after I started going on about the inaccuracies of Jesus' family tree. You are my new favorite person. I still want to get one of those ones that want to have a bit of a debate....
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Post by Ian1732 on Nov 9, 2009 22:49:07 GMT -5
Why haven't I been visited by any JWs yet? From these stories, I'd imagine it's a rather common occurrence...
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Post by MaybeNever on Nov 10, 2009 0:03:25 GMT -5
One of the fairly important events, for me, was seeing and hearing about my dad's interactions with JWs. My dad's a fairly devout Catholic, and has no great love for Protestants, but he's a tolerant man and I think that was highly important in my development. He never did any kind of those goofy stunts or aggressive responses, he instead invited them in and would spend an hour or two just debating with them. It never came to anything, naturally, but that 's one of the things I've always highly respected about my dad despite our radically different views on religion.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Nov 10, 2009 0:19:25 GMT -5
Living at uni and all, the closest I get to JWs in terms of dickheads who annoy you with bullshit are the socialist alternative (that and the bible club very occasionally).
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Post by ltfred on Nov 10, 2009 1:28:29 GMT -5
Living at uni and all, the closest I get to JWs in terms of dickheads who annoy you with bullshit are the socialist alternative (that and the bible club very occasionally). Man they're fun. A hilarious bunch of Lenin-worshipping, Trotskyist communiusts. They really like Lenin, right? Apparently Stalin started this big 'counter-revolution against all Lenin's great ideas and stuff. Nothing Lenin did could possibly be wrong. All the people the Checka killed were artistocrats or counter-revolutionaries who wanted to help the Americans or the Whites take over the country. I got him to admit that he opposed the death penalty. Cognative dissonance is a bitch, isn't it?
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Post by Art Vandelay on Nov 10, 2009 1:35:34 GMT -5
Living at uni and all, the closest I get to JWs in terms of dickheads who annoy you with bullshit are the socialist alternative (that and the bible club very occasionally). Man they're fun. A hilarious bunch of Lenin-worshipping, Trotskyist communiusts. They really like Lenin, right? Apparently Stalin started this big 'counter-revolution against all Lenin's great ideas and stuff. Nothing Lenin did could possibly be wrong. All the people the Checka killed were artistocrats or counter-revolutionaries who wanted to help the Americans or the Whites take over the country. I got him to admit that he opposed the death penalty. Cognative dissonance is a bitch, isn't it? Personally I find the fact that despite their claims that they want to incite a revolution and overthrow the government (meaning they're technically guilty of treason and would be an enemy of the state if they were something more than a bunch of moronic kids), they're also trying to petition the same government (and this isn't even going into the exact nature of the petitions) the most hilarious. That and the complete lack of comprehension of basic economics and human nature for that matter.
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Post by RavynousHunter on Nov 10, 2009 1:52:06 GMT -5
Every time I see "JW," my mind interprets it as "Jew." I guess that counts as a funny story if you wanna look at it that way.
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Post by cailinban on Nov 10, 2009 9:46:49 GMT -5
I've never been approached by them, but if I ever was, I'd ask them why, since only 144,000 people (men?) are going to heaven, why oh why would they want to increase their competition. If I was in a group millions strong, of which I knew only 144,000 was going to get the prize, I'd be busy trying to deconvert people!
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Post by Sigmaleph on Nov 10, 2009 10:00:01 GMT -5
I've never been approached by them, but if I ever was, I'd ask them why, since only 144,000 people (men?) are going to heaven, why oh why would they want to increase their competition. If I was in a group millions strong, of which I knew only 144,000 was going to get the prize, I'd be busy trying to deconvert people! That's exactly what they're doing. Think about it, how many people do you know that have been converted by JWs knocking on their door? And how many do you know that find themselves put off by that and thus less likely to consider converting? The Witnesses are a devious bunch.
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Post by Caitshidhe on Nov 10, 2009 10:46:15 GMT -5
I've never been approached by them, but if I ever was, I'd ask them why, since only 144,000 people (men?) are going to heaven, why oh why would they want to increase their competition. If I was in a group millions strong, of which I knew only 144,000 was going to get the prize, I'd be busy trying to deconvert people! My dad's done that before. About.... a dozen or so years ago there was a sudden surge in JWs in this area for reasons that remain completely unknown to me. Every couple of weeks for several months they came around. My dad would answer the door, listen to their "ARE YOU GOING TO HEAVEN?" bullcrap, and then tell them that since "only 144,000 people are going to be 'saved', which one of you isn't going?" Then he'd leave them to argue about it. Sometimes my dad is kind of awesome. But only sometimes.
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Post by Mr. Turquoise on Nov 10, 2009 11:44:21 GMT -5
Last year, literally within a week of my return to Canada, a pair of JWs knocked on the door of my step-mother's house (where I was living at the time). Apparently, they had been around a few times, and my step-mother couldn't seem to convince them she wasn't interested. So, I decided to take care of it.
I spoke to them for over an hour, and at several points, they became noticeably flustered. Among other things, we talked about morality (they brought it up when I said that I don't believe in gods), and I started listing all of the evil things their god has done, except that I framed it in such a way as to make them think I was talking about a foreign dictator. They initially agreed that the actions I described were immoral, until they started recognizing my descriptions from scripture. The short conversation about free will and the problem of evil also made them amusingly uncomfortable.
Despite my clear invitation to do so, they've never since returned to my step-mother's house.
Mr. Turquoise
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Post by ironbite on Nov 10, 2009 18:39:46 GMT -5
Apperently Jay Dubs come around when my fiancee's home alone. They don't come around when I'm here.
Ironbite-I wanna mess with 'em.
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Post by hathor on Nov 11, 2009 22:47:09 GMT -5
The JWs used to leave their papers in my door but they haven't been by my place in two years because the one time they caught me at home my oldest child, who was 9 or so at the time, made a comment about the Bible that had them racing to their car. I haven't gotten one flyer since, I suspect they marked our house off.
I don't remember exactly what it was he said, it had to do with the Bible being boring. He still brags to his uncles about driving them off.
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Post by dantesvirgil on Nov 11, 2009 22:54:57 GMT -5
I've never been approached by them, but if I ever was, I'd ask them why, since only 144,000 people (men?) are going to heaven, why oh why would they want to increase their competition. If I was in a group millions strong, of which I knew only 144,000 was going to get the prize, I'd be busy trying to deconvert people! They have an alternative prize for the rest of them. They were essentially formed by lawyers. They're many levels of cognitive dissonance, but they're crafty. The number of "famous" people who were raised around JWs or converted or deconverted always amaze me, given their small number compared to other religions. Serena and Venus Williams are JWs. Prince is a converted JW. Michael Jackson's mom was/is a JW, he was one for a long time until he disassociated himself (JW kids went through a fingerless glove stage and there were speeches at our mass assemblies about "we wouldn't put posters of elders up in our bedrooms, so why put posters of individuals up there??").
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Post by trike on Nov 12, 2009 0:18:49 GMT -5
They haven't been in our neighborhood for the past few years, I'm not sure if there is a congregation around her that is getting smaller, older and less able to go door to door or for another reason. They stopped coming to out door back in the day because whenever we opened our door our German Shepherd would be the first one to poke her head out and say high. The last two little old ladies who came to our door commented on "what a nice dog you have" politely left me a brochure and got the hell out of the neighborhood.
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