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Post by Magnizeal on Dec 21, 2009 7:22:34 GMT -5
I know... my last eight are almost pure cribbage... I actually have enough words to make very short sentances. 'Kozgogngoh yit'ngosnah 'khehlizngah, for example. 'rabbit-direct object eat-once-actual grass', or the rabbit eats grass. 'Kozgogngoh yit'ngasnah 'khehlizngah would be 'rabbit habitually eats grass'. I don't quite know how to pluralize yet, so yeah. ... anyway. I -can- make sentences. They're just kind of weird. The single quote is before the stressed sylable, btw... it's the best way I can show that in our latin alphabet. anyway, aside from that... Most alphabets, as I understand, are phonetic. You mostly use English sounds, then? Either way, it's very pretty. ^^ Glad you like the reference. Edit: this is what the first sentence looks like properly written:
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Post by chad sexington on Dec 21, 2009 8:47:31 GMT -5
You mostly use English sounds, then? Not so much that as I just stripped the language down to its basic components. So there's like nine vowels, eighteen consonants, and six symbols that would be represented as biliterals if they were written in latin script (Rough estimate - actual numbers may vary). I had a go at a syllabic alphabet syllabary at one time, but it was too much Yours is quite cool, it would look pretty awesome on a banner of some kind
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Post by Magnizeal on Dec 21, 2009 10:15:26 GMT -5
Aah. So, just wondering, are you trying to make, like, a trade language, or do the native speakers just use that many sounds? That's 33 distinct phenomes, which seems high to me. Then again, it's not like I've done a study to find out how many distinct phenomes most languages have. ^^
I agree, syllabaries are... painful. To make and to use. ^_^ And I flat refuse to ever do anything with a fully character/hieroglyphic witting system again. Which is kind of a pity, since they can look totally awesome.
And thanks. They do use it in banners a fair bit...
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Post by John E on Dec 21, 2009 10:27:21 GMT -5
Wow, you guys know all the terminology and linguistic ins and outs and such. I don't.
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Post by Magnizeal on Dec 21, 2009 11:40:06 GMT -5
I, um, learned them all from Omniglot. Also, I am an auspie with a minor obsession in linguistics. So, yeah... that explains me... You should seriously check out Omniglot, I linked it on the bottom of page one...
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Post by chad sexington on Dec 21, 2009 23:12:33 GMT -5
Aah. So, just wondering, are you trying to make, like, a trade language, or do the native speakers just use that many sounds? That's 33 distinct phenomes, which seems high to me. Not really - bear in mind I split up several vowel sounds (the 'a' in 'after' is different from the 'a' in 'rate', or the 'o' in 'hot' is different from the 'o' in 'over, etc) as well as adding biliteral phonemes (sh, ng), that's what pushed the number up. It seems logical to me that a non-latin script would distinguish between different sounds. At the moment it's an everyday language, but I'll see where it goes over time. This is my fourth attempt, after all...
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Post by Magnizeal on Dec 21, 2009 23:27:56 GMT -5
Oh, I have no issues with the extra phonemes, like sh or ng, or the extra vowels. It does make sense. It also still strikes me as a lot of phenomes. ^^ Then again, looking things up, English has 44 phenomes, we just don't differentiate them in our alphabet. So, never mind.
What's the culture like? Mine's a former slave culture, and the language actually IS a trade language. Each species in the culture has their own language, but when the humans enslaved all the non-humans, the non-humans made a pidgin to talk to each other partly from survival. Originally, the alphabet was carved, the brush-form is newer. That's why the word order in mine is so dang fluid; different species had their own word order, and that got carried away, so now one species uses, say, s-v-o like English, while another in the same language might use v-o-s. At least, that's my goal.
Anyway, if you know your culture, you can tailor some of the lingusitical oddities to match.
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Post by chad sexington on Dec 21, 2009 23:32:08 GMT -5
I've been going through a Dark Age phase recently, so basically imagine something c.600ce, only matrilinear. They're a breakaway faction of a larger tribe/nation/empire, but that's about as far as I've gotten
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Post by John E on Dec 21, 2009 23:45:30 GMT -5
A few sentences from Olteli:
U klaina gended te. (The rabbit ate grass.) Klainang gendeth gris. (Rabbits [as a class of things] eat plants.) Wi klaini gendeth'r grae ol um! (The rabbits are eating my potatos!)
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Post by tiado on Dec 21, 2009 23:51:50 GMT -5
That would be cool to make a new language. Though I think I've already made a new language, I'm fluent in "stumble-ese".
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Post by Radiation on Dec 22, 2009 19:42:30 GMT -5
when I have time I will try to post my Grand Rapidian language up.
I don't know alot about linguistics, I just make up what makes sense to me.
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Post by John E on Dec 22, 2009 23:10:57 GMT -5
when I have time I will try to post my Grand Rapidian language up. I don't know alot about linguistics, I just make up what makes sense to me. That's pretty much what I do too. I figure that's how languages were created to start with, so it's all good.
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Post by Sandafluffoid on Dec 24, 2009 13:54:48 GMT -5
Free Fonstructor: fontstruct.fontshop.com/I still have a few more characters to create, but this is the font to the language I am creating, it's an alphabet that accidentally turned out to bare similarities to Arabic. A sample sentence, Lùŋnårù ni bålébé (Lit. 'being'stem+VERB+CERTAIN, third-person pronoun, 'sleep'stem+ADJECTIVE) or, in English, 'he/she/zie is asleep.'
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Post by chad sexington on Jan 1, 2010 22:59:09 GMT -5
I've been going through a Dark Age phase recently, so basically imagine something c.600ce, only matrilinear. They're a breakaway faction of a larger tribe/nation/empire, but that's about as far as I've gotten I should clarify that. It's something I've built up for a lot of stories, but they all take place in different eras. Anyway, it all came about as the result of a debate I had about ten years ago whether a matricarchal society would be any less oppressive than the historical patriarchy. Of course my OCD kicked in and I had to work out a language and a culture and a map to make it all coherent, then I started working stories around it. And that's all getting a bit off-topic
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Post by Radiation on Jan 3, 2010 23:04:11 GMT -5
when I have time I will try to post my Grand Rapidian language up. I don't know alot about linguistics, I just make up what makes sense to me. That's pretty much what I do too. I figure that's how languages were created to start with, so it's all good. This is the written form of the language that I did in Photoshop. It's still sketchy and I hope to make a font with it, but school is starting back up soon so it will probably be a while. There is no capitalization in the language except for the stresses. Names and places aren't capitalized as well as the beginning of each sentence. I also wrote a text on how the phonetics sound but I'm too lazy to post it.
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