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Post by wmdkitty on Nov 19, 2009 1:05:57 GMT -5
The only reason you don't speak his name is because it might attract him, and since he's already here, who cares? Candlejack **** ****** is the guy who came up with "4 step perfect proof of God" that you may have seen around. He has an ugly tendency to spam a lot of meaningless drivel and he often googles his name. He is, as you might notice, an idiot. LOL CANDLEJA- Oh, SHI- |
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Post by Thejebusfire on Nov 19, 2009 1:23:39 GMT -5
If you don't answer our questions here, then what makes us think you will answer them there? |
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Post by caseagainstfaith on Nov 19, 2009 9:02:09 GMT -5
Holy crap where have I been, 3 pages already and I didn't even know this thread existed. Personally I think he wants us to come to his territory so that way if we "persecute" them to much they can do RR style and ban or he just wants a group of his buddies ready for non sequitors and question avoidance. and my response to the original post -  |
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Post by CtraK on Nov 19, 2009 9:35:38 GMT -5
You're right, Vene. This is our 2nd drive-by. Coupled with Nautical, I declare that we are in a TROLLSPLOSION! And with that, FSTDT switches up to DEFCON 4.99. |
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Post by peanutfan on Nov 19, 2009 11:34:46 GMT -5
I think this snip from my signature sums up the entire thread.
Fundament: Noun. Old English term for the buttocks.
Fundamentalism: Noun. State of mind that results in talking out of one's ass.
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Post by HonestlyNow on Nov 19, 2009 11:57:31 GMT -5
*yawn*...idiot...since (as has been noted) this has been going on on the mainpage for a little bit now, it's starting to get really freakin annoying...
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Post by wattsaman on Nov 19, 2009 13:07:30 GMT -5
I figure you just have to deal with the drive-by trolls. It comes with the territory.
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Post by m52nickerson on Nov 20, 2009 7:53:19 GMT -5
Some of the points the original post makes on his site. People do not willingly die for something they know is a lie or a lie they made up themselves, nor do they willing go to their deaths as martyrs if they don't believe in what they are doing.There is no proof of this. Even a lack of cases were people did die for a lie does not in it self prove this. The preponderance of evidence (trillions+), beyond of reasonable doubt, of cause and effects tell us nothing in the universe is without a cause, otherwise you would have to be God to know if God exists, and obviously, you are not God. It is not necessary to know everything to know if God exists due to overwhelming evidence. Therefore, the Uncreated must exist Who created, the only known available possibility Who is God of the Bible since none can compare to Christ. "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth" (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, author of Sherlock Homes). "If all known possibilities are impossible, what we had deemed impossible must be true" (Spock on Star Trek).The original poster is fond of saying that you can't cause the uncaused. OK. This works as well for the universe as well as a god. Before the beginning of space time there was nothing. So no cause can come before the beginning. We are left with two possibilities. A god was the uncaused, or the beginning of the universe was the uncaused. Occam's Razor tells us that the existence of god is an unnecessary step and should be eliminated. So the universe's beginning was uncaused. see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CausalityGod exists outside of the universe.Another claim made by the original poster. One to which the question is asked, what proof of that is there of this. To which no answer is given. |
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Post by Tiger on Nov 20, 2009 10:17:10 GMT -5
I know I'm late to the party, but I'm bored and trying to procrastinate. 1) Something can't come from that which does not exist, so the universe requires a cause. As does Yahweh, if we accept that as true. Woah. The shift from scientific theory to theological babble was kind of abrupt there. Watch your step. The Big Bounce theory. Also, you cannot posit that everything must have a creator and then immediately create an exception to that rule. Furthermore, you seem to be leaping immediately from the (unsupported) conclusion that the universe had a creator to the idea that that creator must have been the Christian god, ignoring the possibility that it could have been Zeus, Thor, Mithra, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Tony the Tiger. Or here's a crazy idea - maybe your initial assumption is wrong and you can get something from nothing under certain circumstances. You don't know whether that's true or not any more than I do. Finally, you're ignoring a pretty large problem with your argument. If we accept the idea that you can't get something from nothing as true, positing a creator does nothing to solve the problem. If the universe exists, and it did not exist in the past, then at some point something was created out of nothing. Your theory that this event was caused by a cosmological entity does nothing to change this. I have nothing to say to this other than: lol You're right, it's impossible to prove a negative. That does not mean we should believe everything anyone tells us simply because we can't disprove it. You know what's ironic? Your claim that you can't get something from nothing is itself a negative and therefore cannot be proven. How cheesy. |
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Post by dasfuchs on Nov 20, 2009 13:20:09 GMT -5
You're right, Vene. This is our 2nd drive-by. Coupled with Nautical, I declare that we are in a TROLLSPLOSION! And with that, FSTDT switches up to DEFCON 4.99. Oh no, when do we go raid small forums run by brown people that are totally unrelated to the reason we feel defcon needs to be elevated? |
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Post by dasfuchs on Nov 20, 2009 13:23:07 GMT -5
"People do not willingly die for something they know is a lie or a lie they made up themselves, nor do they willing go to their deaths as martyrs if they don't believe in what they are doing."
is he defending Muslim suicide bombers now?
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Post by wmdkitty on Nov 20, 2009 13:26:45 GMT -5
"People do not willingly die for something they know is a lie or a lie they made up themselves, nor do they willing go to their deaths as martyrs if they don't believe in what they are doing." is he defending Muslim suicide bombers now? Sounds like it to me.... |
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Post by Distind on Nov 20, 2009 16:15:31 GMT -5
If you don't answer our questions here, then what makes us think you will answer them there? Yea, Given the biblocality website, it was either Troy or one of his followers. As such at the first sign of spam there was heavy use of the ban hammer. Sorry folks, but having cleaned up well over 2000 messages of his off the main page, he can suck my ass when it comes to fair treatment. |
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Post by Jedi Knight on Nov 20, 2009 16:49:10 GMT -5
Yea, Given the biblocality website, it was either Troy or one of his followers. As such at the first sign of spam there was heavy use of the ban hammer. Sorry folks, but having cleaned up well over 2000 messages of his off the main page, he can suck my ass when it comes to fair treatment. Fair treatment? You banned the spamming troll. Can't be fairer than that. |
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Post by A. Sapien on Nov 20, 2009 20:41:47 GMT -5
If you don't answer our questions here, then what makes us think you will answer them there? Yea, Given the biblocality website, it was either Troy or one of his followers. As such at the first sign of spam there was heavy use of the ban hammer. Sorry folks, but having cleaned up well over 2000 messages of his off the main page, he can suck my ass when it comes to fair treatment. Certainly doesn't bother me any, from my time at ex-christian.net I know he doesn't learn, never will and has the exact same M.O. everytime. He wouldn't even have been entertaining like Nautical, because he wouldn't have even put up the appearance of trying. |
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