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Post by ninjagrapefruit on Mar 2, 2009 21:53:56 GMT -5
No one wants to take your faith, I assure you. It would be better for all parties if you would just keep the damn thing to yourself.
I personally don't have any problem with people displaying whatever sort of religious shit they want to as long as it is with their own fundage and is on private property. So you know, the exact opposite of what this case is about.
And I think the atheist monument would be a gigantic statue of Mark Twain laughing.
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Post by dasfuchs on Mar 2, 2009 22:10:13 GMT -5
And you ain't obeyin' our laws, and you ain't American, and you ain' smart, but you is goin' ta hell |
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 3, 2009 7:56:05 GMT -5
."That's basically where we get a large percentage of our laws", Ritze says. "Thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not kill." So two is a large percentage? Nope, it's also a baseless connection IMHO. As these sort of laws have existed in about all societies regardless of whether or not they were Christian.  That's one of the things that kills me about religious folks and the law. Do they actually believe without the Bible (for example), we'd be running around murdering and stealing? Anyway, where are the laws protecting the Sabbath, requiring you to honor your parents, preventing worship of other Gods, and preventing lies? |
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Post by Sigmaleph on Mar 3, 2009 13:33:23 GMT -5
That's one of the things that kills me about religious folks and the law. Do they actually believe without the Bible (for example), we'd be running around murdering and stealing? Some have said so in pretty much the same words. |
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Post by The_L on Mar 3, 2009 15:02:28 GMT -5
Yeah, Wiccans. You won't be putting up any monuments to Satan-worship while Stupid McDumbfuck is on the case! Darn! Now I have to cancel the order on all those virgin goats! Do you have any idea how hard it is to find 20 virgin goats? ;P |
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Post by szaleniec on Mar 3, 2009 15:11:45 GMT -5
Not to mention "thou shalt not covet" is the polar opposite of capitalism and how our economy is expected to work. I enjoy questioning fundies' capitalist credentials when they suggest that the "survival of the fittest" business makes evolutionary theory morally suspect. |
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Post by MaybeNever on Mar 3, 2009 15:41:21 GMT -5
Yeah, Wiccans. You won't be putting up any monuments to Satan-worship while Stupid McDumbfuck is on the case! Darn! Now I have to cancel the order on all those virgin goats! Do you have any idea how hard it is to find 20 virgin goats? ;P I don't pretend to understand Nate!'s Law, I just enforce it. |
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 3, 2009 15:46:55 GMT -5
That's one of the things that kills me about religious folks and the law. Do they actually believe without the Bible (for example), we'd be running around murdering and stealing? Some have said so in pretty much the same words. I've met a few, actually. With so many people thinking that our legal code is based on the Ten Commandments/the Bible, it's hard to believe they all think that, just because.... ...Well, mostly because my faith in humanity can't take the hit, but you get the point. |
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Post by Redhunter on Mar 10, 2009 6:11:20 GMT -5
Some have said so in pretty much the same words. I've met a few, actually. With so many people thinking that our legal code is based on the Ten Commandments/the Bible, it's hard to believe they all think that, just because.... ...Well, mostly because my faith in humanity can't take the hit, but you get the point. I've literally had people say that to me. It wasn't about my atheism as I hadn't found it yet, but it was said about AN atheist or about atheism (i've heard millions of them over such a long period of time they honestly blur after a while). "I wish I could just not believe in the obvious truth of jesus, then I could steal and kill and do whatever I wanted and not have to follow any rules at all. But where does it stop; Rape? Child molesting? Drinking blood? Satanism? R-Rated movies?!?!?!? |
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Post by somnium on Mar 10, 2009 6:27:24 GMT -5
ooo now hold-up, I like drinking blood and killin' as much as the next girl but R-Rated movies, that is extreme even for a satanic atheist  actually never understood that insult i don't believe in god so why would i believe if his arch nemesis? weird. pfft fundies make me laugh and cry at the same time it can be very confusing. On a serious note I find it incredibly frustrating that some people think being atheist and being a good person are mutually exclusive. |
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Post by Star Cluster on Mar 10, 2009 7:04:46 GMT -5
Re: captainhooker's vid. "You ain't touchin' my faith!" I think someone got raped by a priest as a kid. Nah, just mind-fucked. And regardless of whether placing the Ten Commandments on state-owned property is privately funded or not, it is still on stated-owned property, and that is where the unconstitutionality comes in. |
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 10, 2009 7:59:55 GMT -5
Woah Woah WOAH, Red! Child molesting? That's homosexuality, man, and that's just unacceptable. Pass the blood, please.
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Post by Redhunter on Mar 12, 2009 2:57:47 GMT -5
ooo now hold-up, I like drinking blood and killin' as much as the next girl but R-Rated movies, that is extreme even for a satanic atheist actually never understood that insult i don't believe in god so why would i believe if his arch nemesis? weird. pfft fundies make me laugh and cry at the same time it can be very confusing. On a serious note I find it incredibly frustrating that some people think being atheist and being a good person are mutually exclusive. It's such a limited view of the world. To them there is only their religion's version of the world and that's it. And the bush mentality, "You're either with us or against us" doesn't help. They think it's god vs satan, so if I don't believe in god, I must worship satan! Regardless of the fact that they are equally unproven and part of the exact same fucking story! Like someone is going to say, "I believe in Cain, but I can't believe in Abel, that character is just too farfetched!" Ridiculous to the extreme. But that's also the whole, good and atheist are mutually exclusive thing. If you're an atheist you don't follow biblegod, and all good comes through him. Nevermind that biblegod is a fucking psychopath would likes to watch people fuck, just as he made them and just as he knew since the dawn of time that they would do. Being god must be like watching unlimited porn and knowing all the while what is going to be happening where at what time. Star Cluster: Another bit of ridiculousness, the ten commandments rubbish. It is a clear violation of crutch... church and state, yet they chose to see it as a personal attack on their faith/god. That's the calling card of fucking idiots! So if they decided to hold a moses celebration and sacrifice some thing or someone on the courthouse steps and someone protested or tried to stop them it would be because of religious persecution in their eyes, nothing more than a bunch of god-hating satan lovers trying to stamp out the word of jesus... It makes me sad that leading members of my community think this exact way. We've had a ten commandments controversy going on here for ten years now. Courthouse lawn, big old rock monument of the ten commandments. The sad thing is that opposition has been pushing for OTHER monuments to sit next to it instead of fighting the fact that NONE should be there. Something so seemingly cut and dry is getting more and more complicated. Sad. |
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Post by amindfarfaraway on Mar 12, 2009 4:01:17 GMT -5
["If we allow him to do this, then what if a group of wiccans wants to put a monument out there for devil worship?" Collins says.] I AM SO FUCKIN TIRED OF HEARING THIS RETARDED-ASS SHIT  I literally facepalmed when I read that. What a complete load of fucking nonsense. Remind me never to go to Oklahoma. |
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Post by pdc1987 on Mar 16, 2009 20:33:15 GMT -5
["If we allow him to do this, then what if a group of wiccans wants to put a monument out there for devil worship?" Collins says.] I AM SO FUCKIN TIRED OF HEARING THIS RETARDED-ASS SHIT Since when do Wiccans worship the devil? |
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