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Post by CtraK on Mar 16, 2009 21:26:36 GMT -5
Since when do Wiccans worship the devil? Since they fucked up their PR, by the looks of things. Also, captainhooker's video is fairly disturbing, but y'know what's worse? My credit rating is appalling. I always thought I was good with money, too...
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Mar 16, 2009 22:22:45 GMT -5
Well I agree with the guy who said he'd vote "no" on the monument (though he lost me on the Wiccan=devil worship part).
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Post by wmdkitty on Mar 17, 2009 0:05:20 GMT -5
["If we allow him to do this, then what if a group of wiccans wants to put a monument out there for devil worship?" Collins says.] I AM SO FUCKIN TIRED OF HEARING THIS RETARDED-ASS SHIT Seconded. Wicca=/=Satanism. (And I should know...)
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 17, 2009 3:48:33 GMT -5
I would have thought a suitable monument to atheism would resemble a blank monolith - as in 2001: A Space Oddyssey.
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Post by Redhunter on Mar 17, 2009 5:09:32 GMT -5
I would have thought a suitable monument to atheism would resemble a blank monolith - as in 2001: A Space Oddyssey. Okay... so what would be a suitable monument for not believing in Bigfoot? Or elves? Or satyrs?
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Post by Vypernight on Mar 17, 2009 5:23:44 GMT -5
The wiccan part aside, I can see why they're so appalled by a statue of Satan. I mean why would they want a statue depicting a character from the Bible who killed and tortured a fraction of the people God did, and most, if not all (I haven't read the Bible in a while) were on God's own orders.
That makes perfect sense to me. Better to only symbolize the being who slaughtered more people than all the fundie Christians, Muslims, Satanists, etc. combined.
Take care,
Jay
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Post by Redhunter on Mar 17, 2009 5:34:19 GMT -5
The wiccan part aside, I can see why they're so appalled by a statue of Satan. I mean why would they want a statue depicting a character from the Bible who killed and tortured a fraction of the people God did, and most, if not all (I haven't read the Bible in a while) were on God's own orders. That makes perfect sense to me. Better to only symbolize the being who slaughtered more people than all the fundie Christians, Muslims, Satanists, etc. combined. Take care, Jay Just to clarify for you. Satan killed Job's family. Ten members, at the order of god. So it was more of strictly assists on satan's part. And it's pretty fucked up... if you and some other guy had a bet going, why would you kill ten members of this Job dudes family when it was the other guys' idea to do it? The devil is kind of stupid. Of course, he knows god is all knowing and made a bet with god anyway so... Yeah. Not bright. of course, since none of it is true, it's no wonder that little logical details like that were ignored.
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Post by Vypernight on Mar 17, 2009 5:59:20 GMT -5
True, I don't know about you, but I wouldn't make a bet with someone who's all-knowing.
Still, God condoned the killings so you can't really blame Satan for it.
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Post by Redhunter on Mar 17, 2009 6:33:31 GMT -5
True, I don't know about you, but I wouldn't make a bet with someone who's all-knowing. Still, God condoned the killings so you can't really blame Satan for it. Exactly. The "facts" of the bible... Hmmm... That just does NOT look or feel right... Allow me to start again... Within the confines of the information put forth by the christian bible, the way the story is lain out, satan is basically a pawn used to be the scapegoat for when god does mean assed shit. Christians hate to hear any sympathy for the devil, but aside from the prophets and shit who are always harping on about how bad satan is, he only exists because of the feelings god gave to an angel! And he only assisted in ten deaths while god killed everyone on the whole fucking planet! EVery animal every blade of fucking grass, but satan, the one god made, is the evil one? That's so fucked! I wouldn't trust that petty, sociopathic biblegod any further than I can hurl his bible at pat robertson's head. But yeah... I mean, the devil is so crafty and so sneaky but he didn't do jack shit in the bible. As governor of texas, bush "assisted" with hundreds of deaths making him way more of a devil than satan.
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Post by Vypernight on Mar 17, 2009 7:15:34 GMT -5
And you pretty much know those same people fear 'Satanic' Wiccan symbols would have no problem with a poster of W Bush there.
Personally, I'd prefer anything to do with Wicca, but then again I find it interesting.
Take care,
Jay
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Post by Damen on Mar 17, 2009 7:43:30 GMT -5
People complain about how dumb Oklahoma must be and vow never to go there. Yeah, shut the hell up and be glad you don't have to live here like I do.
Hmm...mayhap I should print the story out and pay a visit to the ACLU?
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Post by wottockhunt on Mar 17, 2009 11:39:21 GMT -5
(Bumped into this at Notalwaysright.com; HAD to post it, sorry if it's in the wrong thread.)
Me: “Thank you for calling ***, this is ***, how can I help you?”
Customer:*yelling* “IS THIS TECH SUPPORT?!”
Me: “Yes ma’am, it is. How can I help you?”
Customer: “My internets are broken and I need you to fix it now.”
Me: “OK, what’s your account number?”
Customer: “Ugh. You can’t just see it?”
Me: “No Ma’am, I have to look it up in our database.”
Customer: “S***. Fine, it’s ***.”
Me: “All right, just a moment here while I bring up the info…”
Customer: “Just hurry it up, will you?”
Me: “OK, it’s coming up now…”
Customer:*sneezes*
(About 10 seconds pass in silence. I can hear children talking in the background.)
Customer: “Excuse me…”
(I stay quiet, assuming she’s talking to the children.)
Customer: “EXCUSE ME!”
Me: “Sorry, were you speaking to me?”
Customer: “YES YOU IDIOT! WHAT THE F*** is WRONG with you people?”
Me: “I’m sorry? I’m not sure I understand…”
Customer: “I SNEEZED AND YOU DIDN’T BLESS ME! WHAT ARE YOU, SOME KIND OF ATHEIST?! DON’T YOU REALIZE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU DON’T BLESS SOMEONE WHEN THEY SNEEZE?”
Me: “Actually, ma’am, I really don’t, but I apol–”
Customer:*interrupting* “YOU’RE A F***ING HEATHEN! I HOPE YOU BURN IN H*** FOR THIS YOU…” *continues screaming*
Me: “Ma’am, I apologize if I’ve offended. I’ve found your account information, and it looks like your service was terminated three months ago.”
Customer: “YES! THAT’S HOW LONG IT’S BEEN DOWN - WHY CAN’T YOU FIX IT?!”
Me: “Because you don’t have an account with us anymore. You were canceled because of non-payment. If you’d like, I can transfer you to billing, and–”
Customer:*unintelligible screaming then hangs up*
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Post by Julian on Mar 17, 2009 13:18:36 GMT -5
Customer: “I SNEEZED AND YOU DIDN’T BLESS ME! WHAT ARE YOU, SOME KIND OF ATHEIST?! DON’T YOU REALIZE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU DON’T BLESS SOMEONE WHEN THEY SNEEZE?” Me: “Actually, ma’am, I really don’t, but I apol–” The correct answer is.... I believe the practise sprang up in the middle ages where people used to believe that your soul can be thrown from your body when you sneeze, that sneezing otherwise opened your body to invasion by the Devil or evil spirits, or that sneezing was your body's effort to force out an invading evil spirit. Thus, "bless you" or "God bless you" is used as a sort of shield against evil.Are you missing your soul ma'am? Do you still feel saved? Shall I call an exorcist for you? Let us know if your head starts spinning round or you have a mild case of luminescent projectile vomiting from all your orifices!
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Post by Redhunter on Mar 18, 2009 3:02:30 GMT -5
Customer: “I SNEEZED AND YOU DIDN’T BLESS ME! WHAT ARE YOU, SOME KIND OF ATHEIST?! DON’T YOU REALIZE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU DON’T BLESS SOMEONE WHEN THEY SNEEZE?” Me: “Actually, ma’am, I really don’t, but I apol–” The correct answer is.... I believe the practise sprang up in the middle ages where people used to believe that your soul can be thrown from your body when you sneeze, that sneezing otherwise opened your body to invasion by the Devil or evil spirits, or that sneezing was your body's effort to force out an invading evil spirit. Thus, "bless you" or "God bless you" is used as a sort of shield against evil.Are you missing your soul ma'am? Do you still feel saved? Shall I call an exorcist for you? Let us know if your head starts spinning round or you have a mild case of luminescent projectile vomiting from all your orifices! WOT?! Is that what happens! FUCK! I gotta go get my soul back! I think it's in a used tissue in my garbage can back home! I hope it can survive for hours outside my body or I've just fucked myself out of heaven! *runs off* *rapid footsteps fade* *cardoor slams* *engine starts* *tires squeal into the distance*
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Post by Damen on Mar 22, 2009 2:36:41 GMT -5
Looks like this dumbass bill passed the house and it's on it's way to the senate for a vote. Knowing my dumbass state; it'll pass with little to no opposition.
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