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Post by alwimo on Mar 19, 2009 6:51:10 GMT -5
I wasn't clear. The only reason I was interested in seeing the list was to see if any sites I visit sometimes (4chan, any porn sites) would be included when it's implemented. Not to see a URL there and visit it, which my understanding is it would be illegal.
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Post by malicious_bloke on Mar 19, 2009 6:53:00 GMT -5
The "child porn" thing is just a defense mechanism. Yeah, they might catch a few objectionable sites but generally, stating your purpose as "putting and end to child porn" just means you want carte blanche to ban what you like and label anyone who criticises you a paedophile.
It's a standard tactic in the war against free speech.
It works exactly the same way outside of the intertubes too...
YOU ONLY WANT FREE SPEECH SO YOU CAN SAY THINGS I DONT LIKE!! *gets out hammer*
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Post by szaleniec on Mar 19, 2009 9:08:36 GMT -5
If the Australian government sold the blacklist as a measure against child porn, then if it contains anything at all other than child porn then they acted dishonestly. However, as long as they can convince their electorate that it's all in the name of the Glorious Paedo Hunt™ they're not going to have anything to worry about.
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Post by malicious_bloke on Mar 19, 2009 11:15:47 GMT -5
If the Australian government sold the blacklist as a measure against child porn, then if it contains anything at all other than child porn then they acted dishonestly. However, as long as they can convince their electorate that it's all in the name of the Glorious Paedo Hunt™ they're not going to have anything to worry about. Well why do you think they are so shady about people seeing whats on the list? If it comes to light they are banning stuff outside their remit it would cause all manner of trouble
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Post by The_L on Mar 19, 2009 11:22:40 GMT -5
A Queensland dentist? Is he a Satanic dentist? Well, he might be a Christian dentist--Christian sites are taboo too, apparently. ;P
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Post by alwimo on Mar 19, 2009 15:16:30 GMT -5
Well why do you think they are so shady about people seeing whats on the list? If it comes to light they are banning stuff outside their remit it would cause all manner of trouble ...also people around the world would have a list of child pornographs.
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Post by malicious_bloke on Mar 19, 2009 15:18:54 GMT -5
Well why do you think they are so shady about people seeing whats on the list? If it comes to light they are banning stuff outside their remit it would cause all manner of trouble ...also people around the world would have a list of child pornographs. ...which would only interest paedophiles. Anyone determined enough to try finding child porn is going to be a bit sneakier than just looking on a government list. The whole nasty business only survives by its clandestine nature
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Post by alwimo on Mar 19, 2009 15:28:00 GMT -5
That was the reason that the government gave for the "leak" being irresponsible. Also, adults who play Animal Crossing are all paedophiles. www.itexaminer.com/adults-playing-animal-crossing-are-paedophiles.aspx"Andy Anderson, Mid-Missouri Internet Crimes Task Force holds the view that there is no reason why an adult would play Animal Crossing unless they were a paedophile trying to groom child victims".
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Post by skyfire on Mar 19, 2009 15:43:58 GMT -5
That was the reason that the government gave for the "leak" being irresponsible. Also, adults who play Animal Crossing are all paedophiles. www.itexaminer.com/adults-playing-animal-crossing-are-paedophiles.aspx"Andy Anderson, Mid-Missouri Internet Crimes Task Force holds the view that there is no reason why an adult would play Animal Crossing unless they were a paedophile trying to groom child victims". Same mentality that says all comic books and cartoons are for children and so television stations and comic shops with material not for kids are doing what they do solely to corrupt the youth of the country. I wonder what Andy would do if he went to a board dedicated to G. I. Joe, Transformers, My Little Pony, or some other long-lived toy franchise and noted all the 20- and 30- somethings who have since passed their own childhood memories on to their kids.
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Post by The Lazy One on Mar 19, 2009 16:02:48 GMT -5
/b/ is blocked, but not the rest of 4chan. So was the Lemon Party website...
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Post by perv on Mar 19, 2009 17:06:12 GMT -5
wikileaks.org is back up, so y'all go ahead and indulge your curiosity (safely) now. BTW, I think to main Christian sites on there are these two: truechristian.com/ - Which looks poeish. libchrist.com/ - Which is one of those fun Christian sex sites, apparently. And a site with graphic images of aborted fetuses.
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Post by ltfred on Mar 19, 2009 17:35:03 GMT -5
Hmmm. Oh well, didn't look hard enough. Damn.
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Post by frogflayer on Mar 19, 2009 18:55:48 GMT -5
Just been looking through the list. Some of it looks plain nasty (anything with lolita in the name you know is just going to be wrong) but redtube - sheesh.
Two things spring to mind however, who are we paying (as an Australian tax payer) to trawl the webs to find this stuff and secondly how did truechristian.com get on the list. I'm rumaging through the latter now to see if I can find anything fundilicious to be submitted for your delectation.
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Post by szaleniec on Mar 19, 2009 19:29:32 GMT -5
Just got back from Wikileaks myself. Some thoughts:
1. Most of the URLs in the list you couldn't pay me to click. 2. Someone in the Australian censor's office really doesn't like poker. 3. Some legit porn sites on there, I notice. 4. Lemonparty is gross, but it's not child porn. 5. Whatever else you can say about /b/ and ED (and there's a lot) they also aren't child porn. 6. Blocking Wikileaks is suspicious behaviour. 7. What's with all the Geocities sites? I'm not going to click just in case, but if the content was illegal wouldn't Geocities themselves take the site down and report the owner? 8. Like frogflayer I'm at a loss as to how truechristian.com ended up on there. FSTDT isn't, I notice.
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Post by malendras on Mar 19, 2009 19:36:23 GMT -5
I took a look through the entire list. There was a lot of what appeared to be child porn (I very obviously didn't click anything I remotely suspected of that) but there were also quite a few normal porn sites. xtube was blocked, redtube was blocked, myfirstsexteacher was blocked (shit, there's no justification there. The site's mostly MILFs!), and a bunch of non-porn sites. A few youtube member account pages were blocked.
I really, really hope for the sake of Australians that this thing doesn't go mandatory. There are massive problems with the filters - they slow down internet access to a ridiculous degree, with one filter even slowing down 22% when it wasn't even on! They let through blocked sites and more notably, block lots of non-blacklisted sites. I can't see this going well for anybody if these filters are mandated.
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