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Post by Doctor Fishcake on Mar 2, 2009 10:29:39 GMT -5
NI has the highest percentage of people who believe human beings did not evolve but were created by God in the last 10,000 years, according to a UK survey. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7919180.stm-- Doesn't surprise me one bit.  As a side note, in mainland Britain the percentage of regular Christian churchgoers is under 10%. Well under 10%. Yet in NI, which is a hellhole of sectarian violence and general lawlessness, that figure is over 50%. So the next time someone throws the old "Godless societies are less moral" bullcrap at you, throw Northern Ireland right back at them. |
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Post by mistermuncher on Mar 2, 2009 10:55:07 GMT -5
And having to live here, I can only confirm what's said above.
If it's any small consolation, it does breed some pretty virulent antifundies too.
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Post by percyqshunn on Mar 2, 2009 10:58:07 GMT -5
Ireland, Ireland... where have I heard that name before?
Oh yeah. They drink a lot there, don't they? ;D
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Post by headache on Mar 2, 2009 10:59:24 GMT -5
It's the result of the polarization of NI over the past decades.
I can't think of another area in Europe that has been so polarized into two factions who hated each other so profoundly and over such a long period of time and with so much violence attached. Such polarized societies tends to bring out the most ignorant in society and to rally around ideas often seen as totally insane outside the group. Polarizing toward fundamentalism is more the norm than the exception, so NI does not surprise me in this matter, I see it as almost expected and unavoidable.
But when that is said, seeing how NI is changing in regards to the old polarizing political and religious ways, it may still be hope when it comes to creationism too. It may just take some time for Ni to return to more normal conditions due to it's history.
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Post by gotpwnt on Mar 2, 2009 14:17:18 GMT -5
NI has the highest percentage of people who believe human beings did not evolve but were created by God in the last 10,000 years, according to a UK survey. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7919180.stm-- Doesn't surprise me one bit. As a side note, in mainland Britain the percentage of regular Christian churchgoers is under 10%. Well under 10%. Yet in NI, which is a hellhole of sectarian violence and general lawlessness, that figure is over 50%. So the next time someone throws the old "Godless societies are less moral" bullcrap at you, throw Northern Ireland right back at them. This doesn't really surprise me one bit. It does kind of annoy me thanks to an Irish haritage.  On a side note, your avatar makes me happy. |
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Post by Rime on Mar 2, 2009 17:10:33 GMT -5
Well, it's not a great thing, but at least the southern part isn't quite so bad.
A shame it's because the Pope told them that he supports theistic evolution.
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Post by Doctor Fishcake on Mar 2, 2009 17:41:16 GMT -5
On a side note, your avatar makes me happy. Makes me happy too, I saw them live last night and they were fanfuckingtastic! ;D |
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Post by gotpwnt on Mar 2, 2009 19:18:31 GMT -5
On a side note, your avatar makes me happy. Makes me happy too, I saw them live last night and they were fanfuckingtastic! ;D Good for you. I didn't get to see them on Warped Tour last summer and that made me sad  |
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Post by mistermuncher on Mar 2, 2009 20:28:47 GMT -5
'kin hell, folks, Ireland, north or south isn't actually ultra-religious, or anything. The problem is the hoors with religion see fit to do it hard enough to make up for the rest of us. You've got 10-25% of arsecandle fundies shouting the bit out, and well over half of the people in the country couldn't give a fuck. Bunch of sour-beaked, non-drinking, non-craic having wankers. You know a local council from the fundiest area of NI used to lock the fucking swings up on a Sunday so the children couldn't play? That football matches (well, soccer matches. Fundies are scared of the GAA) on a Sunday attract protests? That there was manufactured uproar when any band heavier than Cliff "So far in the closet he's in bastarding Narnia shagging Mr Tumnus" Richard dared to play here?
I admit it looks bad, but, much like the shower of shite that was the IRA and the alphabet soup of loyalist dickrags a few years back, they don't mean shit to the man on the street (or Tadhg an dá thaobh in the native, if you prefer) or really have that much effect beyond their impotent screeches at a world rapidly leaving them behind. Like all fundies, they annoy us by their actions. We annoy them by our very existence.
Still, it keeps them out of the pubs, so the rest of us can drink in peace.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Mar 2, 2009 21:15:07 GMT -5
See? I've always hypothesized that a person needs to be really fucking drunk to believe in such nonsense--and here's the proof! ;D
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Post by Vene on Mar 2, 2009 22:14:29 GMT -5
So, does that the US is now officially smarter than NI and Turkey?  |
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Post by MaybeNever on Mar 2, 2009 22:25:04 GMT -5
Huh. Judging from that graphic, all those Pollack jokes should have a new target.
I wonder why Turks so roundly deny evolution, though.
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Post by gotpwnt on Mar 2, 2009 22:55:32 GMT -5
So, does that the US is now officially smarter than NI and Turkey? D: |
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Post by Vene on Mar 2, 2009 22:59:09 GMT -5
I wonder why Turks so roundly deny evolution, though. Because they are 99% Muslim and Muslims are one of the religious groups most likely to deny evolution. The whole thing is religiously motivated, there is not one single secular reason to deny the evolutionary theory. |
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Post by MaybeNever on Mar 2, 2009 23:17:01 GMT -5
I wonder why Turks so roundly deny evolution, though. Because they are 99% Muslim and Muslims are one of the religious groups most likely to deny evolution. The whole thing is religiously motivated, there is not one single secular reason to deny the evolutionary theory. I agree with the second statement. But they're so good at keeping secular governments... somehow, it's the liberals that are behind this. I just know it. |
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As a side note, in mainland Britain the percentage of regular Christian churchgoers is under 10%. Well under 10%. Yet in NI, which is a hellhole of sectarian violence and general lawlessness, that figure is over 50%. So the next time someone throws the old "Godless societies are less moral" bullcrap at you, throw Northern Ireland right back at them.
