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Post by lighthorseman on Dec 16, 2009 3:29:21 GMT -5
"The antiChrist is a cloned beast 7 of 9" I admit I was imagining a conspiracy theory involving clones of Jeri Ryan committing beastiality.
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Post by peanutfan on Dec 16, 2009 13:42:37 GMT -5
I remember reading a graphic novel where a clone of Jesus fought vampires in a postapocalyptic world.
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Post by Chi Shiro on Dec 16, 2009 15:21:09 GMT -5
Okay, I can only handle so much crazy, I didn't get past the part where she was talking about what would happen if she had the ability to bring back Jesus (assuming he existed in the first place). The impression I got from that part was that even Christ himself, could be the Anti-Christ. Hmmm, wouldn't that just cancel each other out? Oh my G-d... That's it! The Antichrist is JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF! He's been working for Satan the WHOLE TIME! Ooh, good theory. It doesn't go along with the whole "house divided itself can not stand" thing, but it makes as much sense as most fundie rambling.
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Post by Sigmaleph on Dec 16, 2009 16:48:33 GMT -5
I've encountered this "clones have no soul" or "would clones have a soul" crap before. Could someone please explain to me how this effects identical twins? One soul for the pair? One with a soul, one without? No soul for either? And why would an artificial clone be any different? Enquiring minds want to know. God manually gives a soul to every human being at conception. He doesn't do this for clones because He 's a dick works in mysterious ways.
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Post by lighthorseman on Dec 16, 2009 19:02:35 GMT -5
I've encountered this "clones have no soul" or "would clones have a soul" crap before. Could someone please explain to me how this effects identical twins? One soul for the pair? One with a soul, one without? No soul for either? And why would an artificial clone be any different? Enquiring minds want to know. God manually gives a soul to every human being at conception. He doesn't do this for clones because He 's a dick works in mysterious ways. Right, so, what happens with identical twins? Since the embryo seperates after conception, seems there shouldn't be enough souls to go around. Or is this one of those occasions where you just ignore science utterly if it doesn't fit neatly with your issue driven dogma?
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Post by Vene on Dec 16, 2009 19:08:41 GMT -5
The soul splits as well, what is the problem here?
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Post by lighthorseman on Dec 16, 2009 19:12:23 GMT -5
The soul splits as well, what is the problem here? So... why doesn't the soul split when you clone someone? Biologically, it is precisely the same process.
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Post by rainydaywoman on Dec 16, 2009 19:27:51 GMT -5
The soul splits as well, what is the problem here? So... why doesn't the soul split when you clone someone? Biologically, it is precisely the same process. I don't think anyone can answer the soul question. But identical twins are not clones! They are two distinct people, identical DNA, but different fingerprints, etc. Whereas a clone is an EXACT copy of another person.
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Post by lighthorseman on Dec 16, 2009 19:31:16 GMT -5
Biologically, identical twins are clones.
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Post by canadian mojo on Dec 16, 2009 20:13:27 GMT -5
Biologically, identical twins are clones. So if twin brothers marry twin sisters and both couples had children, would the kids be cousins or siblings?
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Post by Vene on Dec 16, 2009 20:21:22 GMT -5
The soul splits as well, what is the problem here? So... why doesn't the soul split when you clone someone? Biologically, it is precisely the same process. It only works in the uterus, duh. Outside of that is unnatural.
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Post by discoberry on Dec 16, 2009 20:40:18 GMT -5
You want a royal conspiracy: go look up a picture of the man Diana had her affair with (not Dodi the other guy) and try and tell yourself that Chuck is REALLY Harry's father. So twins that fuck each other are not actually fucking- they are masturbating???
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Post by Chi Shiro on Dec 16, 2009 20:55:17 GMT -5
You want a royal conspiracy: go look up a picture of the man Diana had her affair with (not Dodi the other guy) and try and tell yourself that Chuck is REALLY Harry's father. So twins that fuck each other are not actually fucking- they are masturbating??? I didn't need that pondering in my head... but, oh, there it is. It depends, are they identical twins? Then it goes either way.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 16, 2009 21:23:52 GMT -5
So... why doesn't the soul split when you clone someone? Biologically, it is precisely the same process. I don't think anyone can answer the soul question. But identical twins are not clones! They are two distinct people, identical DNA, but different fingerprints, etc. Whereas a clone is an EXACT copy of another person. Uh. I don't know what differences you're thinking of, but fingerprints would be different between clones too.
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Post by MaybeNever on Dec 16, 2009 22:02:57 GMT -5
I don't think anyone can answer the soul question. But identical twins are not clones! They are two distinct people, identical DNA, but different fingerprints, etc. Whereas a clone is an EXACT copy of another person. Uh. I don't know what differences you're thinking of, but fingerprints would be different between clones too. Also tongue-prints. F'real.
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