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Post by alwimo on Mar 26, 2009 23:29:22 GMT -5
Maybe. As if I needed to be reminded how fucking stupid most therapists are. I forgot to get around to that comment. That's just not fair.
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Post by renaissanceblonde on Mar 26, 2009 23:57:52 GMT -5
*hug* Thanks for the sympathy, guys. Not telling my nanna, I can understand in a way: she's 75 and got dementia in a bad way, though she has pretty much decided it's too late for me to find a bloke (the joys of being 28 and putting off sex till after uni). Mum's a funny duck when it comes to homosexuality. She's had bi and gay friends, doesn't believe in mainstream organised religion, and can be liberal in certain ways (mostly involving organised religion, drugs and spirituality) but believes marriage is for straight people only and that kids raised by gay/bi couples will become gay/bi themselves. Don't get me started about her attitude towards race and the transgendered - the best way to piss her off would be for me to marry an Asian transgendered MTF lesbian. She's lucky I love her dearly despite her faults. So just goes to show religion isn't the only reason to be bigoted.
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 27, 2009 0:14:23 GMT -5
Maybe. I swear to Barbara Keith, My Mom knows about me. Problem is, I'm not sure what she "knows," and because of the way my family is, she'd never outright express it. But she buys me nail polish for Christmas, periodically makes comments about the skirts I own, and periodically calls me a bitch. That last one, I think is really a slip of the tongue, because she only says it when I'm snarky or beat her at a board game, either of which tends to catch her off guard. Which is funny in and of itself, because I beat her at Scrabble all the time, but that's another story entirely. It's more along the line of the whole "blissful ignorance" thing.
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Post by alwimo on Mar 27, 2009 0:23:12 GMT -5
I swear to Barbara Keith, My Mom knows about me. Problem is, I'm not sure what she "knows," Yeah, that's what mine is like. The specific examples don't apply to my situation but I wish that she was more consistent. She is good about everything, overall, though.
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Post by ironbite on Mar 27, 2009 0:29:08 GMT -5
Wait... is everyone on this forum gay except for me? Everyone's gay dude. It's just a matter of what degree you're gay. Let me quote a wise man on the subject. Ironbite-god bless you Ron White.
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Post by Thejebusfire on Mar 27, 2009 0:38:42 GMT -5
*facepalm* It took me years to admit that I was bisexual, and about two more before I told my mum. Her reaction: "you don't know until you have sex." Her second reaction: "don't tell your nanna." Her third reaction: "if you get married to a woman, I'm not coming to the wedding." She still maintains this, by the way. Sexuality can't be 'cured'. My father had a gay cousin, and everytime he brought his lover to a family meeting he would call him "my friend". But back on topic, there are more threatining and more important things out there to cure. Like Cancer or other real diseases.
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Post by malendras on Mar 27, 2009 1:59:16 GMT -5
My father had a gay cousin, and everytime he brought his lover to a family meeting he would call him "my friend". Same with my family actually. My aunt's gay, and she was with the same woman for a very long time. And my parents always called her "Aunt Marie's friend." Granted, this started when I was very young, but that didn't change as I got older. Actually, now that I remember, my mother's never acknowledged to me that my aunt's gay.
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Post by kremlinkoa on Mar 27, 2009 4:24:58 GMT -5
Well if this study is still accurate, then it is theoretically possible to 'cure' homosexuality. For an understanding to this, remember that something does not have to be a disorder to be 'cured'. The true horror here is that it could be used to create an effective 'cure'. The possible wonder is that by taking charge of our own sexuality, we might be able to decide what orientation we want to be, on a day by day basis. Such a breakthrough would be the final straw to end sexual bigotry. Current methods, however, are more like trying to perform surgery with a butcher's knife. Of course I show my own mild bigotry and mental adherence to stereotypes when i realize that such talk of a 'cure' makes me think of X-Men 3. and having one of they guys from 'Queer Eye' dress in a pink version of Magneto's costume and do the "They're trying to cure us, but I say WE are the cure." speech.
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Mar 27, 2009 4:39:22 GMT -5
Well if this study is still accurate, then it is theoretically possible to 'cure' homosexuality. For an understanding to this, remember that something does not have to be a disorder to be 'cured'. The true horror here is that it could be used to create an effective 'cure'. The possible wonder is that by taking charge of our own sexuality, we might be able to decide what orientation we want to be, on a day by day basis. Such a breakthrough would be the final straw to end sexual bigotry. Current methods, however, are more like trying to perform surgery with a butcher's knife. Of course I show my own mild bigotry and mental adherence to stereotypes when i realize that such talk of a 'cure' makes me think of X-Men 3. and having one of they guys from 'Queer Eye' dress in a pink version of Magneto's costume and do the "They're trying to cure us, but I say WE are the cure." speech. I was already thinking of X-Men 3 by the time I got to your second line...
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Post by Vypernight on Mar 27, 2009 4:56:54 GMT -5
At first, I thought this thread was about gay psychologists offering to turn straight people gay. That'd be funny to see people's reactions.
Granted they'd probably miss the hypocrisy of their own reactions. I'm glad the one at the end of the article has a brain.
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Post by alwimo on Mar 27, 2009 6:10:33 GMT -5
Well if this study is still accurate, then it is theoretically possible to 'cure' homosexuality. That study is about making male fruit flies who were not bisexual begin behaving bisexually by changing the way they respond to pheromones. Sure, it's theoretically possible for a sufficiently scientifically advanced method to exist to change human sexuality by tinkering with neurons/hormones/etc. It's just very, very, very far from where we are now with psychology. That study just isn't anywhere near sufficiently generalisable to human sexuality. For an understanding to this, remember that something does not have to be a disorder to be 'cured'. It suggests that it's not good if it's to be "cured". Words like "change" are appropriate. The true horror here is that it could be used to create an effective 'cure'. The possible wonder is that by taking charge of our own sexuality, we might be able to decide what orientation we want to be, on a day by day basis. Such a breakthrough would be the final straw to end sexual bigotry. How would that end sexual bigotry?
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 27, 2009 8:39:30 GMT -5
Yeah, that "cure" has nothing to do with what's going on here or what we're talking about.
Also, keep in mind the "Cure" in X3 was specifically because they themselves thought of it as an aberration. Something negative that needed to be eliminated.
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Post by Vene on Mar 27, 2009 9:17:40 GMT -5
Don't get me started about her attitude towards race and the transgendered - the best way to piss her off would be for me to marry an Asian transgendered MTF lesbian. I think this would be a fantastic, no fabulous, idea.
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 27, 2009 10:53:01 GMT -5
Don't get me started about her attitude towards race and the transgendered - the best way to piss her off would be for me to marry an Asian transgendered MTF lesbian. I think this would be a fantastic, no fabulous, idea. After RB marries her, she should run for president. Oh, and can I be her running mate? I can be every bit as batshit crazy as Palin and twice the douchebag Biden is.
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Post by ironbite on Mar 27, 2009 11:58:06 GMT -5
I think this would be a fantastic, no fabulous, idea. After RB marries her, she should run for president. Oh, and can I be her running mate? I can be every bit as batshit crazy as Palin and twice the douchebag Biden is. But 10 times as hot.
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