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Post by Vene on Mar 28, 2009 14:38:48 GMT -5
Fuck, I might as well get a degree in creation "science." I can tell them all about the evils of a secular university and how evolution was pushed on me.
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Post by trike on Mar 28, 2009 17:51:28 GMT -5
Fuck, I might as well get a degree in creation "science." I can tell them all about the evils of a secular university and how evolution was pushed on me. You'd be their hero, they'd prob build monuments to you (you know, instead of using that money for legitimate research).
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Post by Vene on Mar 28, 2009 18:40:32 GMT -5
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Post by skyfire on Mar 28, 2009 21:49:57 GMT -5
You need 7-10 schools, for sure. You also want to think about a few other things like HOW MUCH ARE THEY GOING TO FUND YOU AND WHAT FOR! That is probably one of the most important questions, equal with or second to who works there (working with PZ Myers would be awesome). You need to find out what each school does for their grad students. Do they give most of them a stipend? Do they have research positions for grad students, or are you going to be a grader for another prof? Your stipend won't be much, but it needs to be designed so that you don't get into too much debt trying to get your grad degree. The next thing you need to know is the track record of their grads once they're finished. So, ask somebody there who their grad placement director is. Find out how many PhDs (which is what you're doing, right?) go on to get jobs and what kind of jobs they get. Ask the profs you have and like now what schools are hot for research right now. They have all the inside dope anyway. And they can tell you whether some school that has the big name prof really doesn't do jack for their grad students. Until you know the answers to the above questions, you might as well just throw a tack on a map and see where it lands. Agreed. If you're willing to relocate in order to attend grad school, you need to weigh your options. Not only that, but if you're sufficiently hot stuff then you might be able to negotiate for additional assistance. One teacher back in high school actually raised the prospect of getting a bidding war or two going when he was talking to us about this here subject.
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Post by dantesvirgil on Mar 29, 2009 7:35:01 GMT -5
Times are too tight for bidding wars over grad students, unfortunately. No one can afford it, and taking grad students to begin with is a gamble. Universities put a lot of resources into grad students that they don't give to undergrads, because they're betting on the success & prestige that person will bring back to the university. But I've never heard of a "bidding war" over a grad student, even in the sciences. Undergrads just aren't that good (no offense, Vene, but you know how much you still have to learn); And it usually just means the other school finally told you about the good package instead of the basic offer they make everybody. The bidding war happens after you get the grad degree.
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Post by Vene on Mar 29, 2009 10:06:09 GMT -5
Undergrads just aren't that good (no offense, Vene, but you know how much you still have to learn) You're not even close to offending me, I do know how much there is to learn. Well, maybe not, but I know it's a lot. If I knew what I was doing, then I wouldn't need the education.
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Post by ouabache on Mar 29, 2009 18:36:42 GMT -5
... and University of Evansville I almost went there. All the dudes are wanna be southerners with misshaped heads, I don't recommend it. Hey, I was born in Evansville so I resemble that remark. I probably should marked that off of my list anyways since it is a private Methodist college. I should have suggested this place anyways:
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